Refaat Alareer, the teacher and writer who had shared the hardships of war with EL PAÍS, was killed along with six family members in an Israeli attack

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    11 months ago

    And the Dems are already saying they’re gonna vote for Genocide Joe again…

    Hold your nose, close your eyes, turn off your brain and vote everyone!

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        11 months ago

        They tell you not to support apartheid and genocide. Very difficult thing to understand indeed.

        Biden just vetoed the ceasefire.

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          Biden just vetoed the ceasefire.

          Do you think Biden is in command of Israel’s military?

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            Of course not. Israel is in charge of America’s military.

            Also if Biden voted yes then the genocide would have immediately ended.

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          A lot of countries voted no or abstained that ceasefire declaration, for good reasons.

          The U.S. had offered substantial amendments to the draft, including a condemnation of the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks that Israel says killed 1,200 people and in which 240 people were taken hostage.

          Britain’s U.N. Ambassador Barbara Woodward said her country abstained because there was no condemnation of Hamas.

          “Israel needs to be able to address the threat posed by Hamas and it needs to do so in a manner that abides by international humanitarian law so that such an attack can never be carried out again,” she told the council.

          None of these changes were made. So by some kind of logic, not condeming Hamas is more important than a humanitarian ceasefire. This is an amazing stance for an organization whose primary goal is supposed to be to work for peace on this planet.

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            11 months ago

            You already forgot America pulling this same shit at the beginning of the genocide, and then a new resolution being introduced WITH condemnation for Hamas and America still vetoed it?

            https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231018-us-vetoes-un-resolution-on-israel-hamas-war

            America would still vote no if the bill was changed to condemn Hamas. Just quit your hypocrisy this same bullshit isn’t gonna work twice.

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              11 months ago

              How does the timeline go here? The news article is dated 2023-10-18, but this latest vote was last friday, 2023-12-08. Why didn’t this latest one have condemnation of Hamas in it if a previous one did?

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                11 months ago

                Because the UN realized this was just for show and it isn’t worth including and they would have to condemn israel too if they condemned Hamas.

                America is going to veto it anyways that’s the point. Trying to suck up to America is pointless.

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      11 months ago

      “At least he’s not trump” is their only response and democrats worked hard to promote fascists like him to make sure that was the only response they’ll ever need.

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        “At least he’s not trump” is their only response

        When it’s a binary choice like that, then there’s only one option.

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          11 months ago

          Almost like a two party political system is intrinsically limited to a “lesser of two evils” situation every single fucking time. Whacky.

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            Well, like it or not, that’s the system we have right now, and so long as it is, by the time the main election comes around, the only options are a) violent overthrow, b) abstain from voting, or c) vote for the least bad option presented.

            I don’t think we’re quite to the point yet where violent overthrow is necessary or justified.

            Abstaining just means you accept whatever the outcome is, and thus have no leg to stand on when you don’t like the outcome.

            In my mind that leaves option c as the only valid option, with the added requirement of working in between elections towards pushing for changes in the voting system.

            I don’t pretend to be a fan of Biden. But despite his shortcomings, he’s still a damn sight better than Trump or RFK Jr. And nobody else running has a snowball’s chance in hell, and most of them are crackpots anyway. So until such a time as we have better options, I will continue to vote for the least bad option.