• RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    I definitely don’t think being pro Palestinian warrants losing your job and all of that. Just as being pro Israel should not warrant it. But there’s a limit. Are you being pro Palestine or are you screaming death to the jews. There’s a big difference. Seems people get caught up in the heat of this extremely contentious issue and forget that neither side in this decades old conflict is without sin. People become extreme in their beliefs and go overboard. If you fuck around like that, well, you get what you deserve.

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      11 months ago

      People got censured for saying “killing Palestinians is bad” while not mentioning Jews once, simply because they didn’t condemn Hamas.

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        11 months ago

        Oh for sure companies are going overboard. I just think it’s way too contentious an issue for companies to go all in on one side vs the other.

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          11 months ago

          Exactly. Either allow everything or censure everything.

          Right now, it seems that companies are okay with genociding a people and silencing those who oppose said genocide.

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            11 months ago

            where it says someone got censored for saying “killing palestinians is bad”?

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              11 months ago

              Last month, the University of Ottawa suspended medical resident Dr. Yipeng Ge after he posted pro-Palestinian comments on his personal social media that resulted in internal complaints against him, according to an email sent by the university’s legal counsel to Ge’s lawyer seen by CBC News

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      11 months ago

      When the headline is about people being pro-Palestine, why do you immediately jump to the assumption that the people in question are being antisemitic?

      You sound like the kind of person who’s causing people to be fired for opposing genocide.

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        11 months ago

        I mean thanks for proving my point. It’s just such an insanity inducing topic that no one can have a conversation about it.

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          You literally jumped straight to ‘death to the jews’ and ‘well, both sides.’ You don’t get to complain about people ‘proving your point’ that ‘we can’t have a conversation about this.’ You weren’t having a conversation, you were erecting a strawman.

          There’s four sides. HAMAS, Israel’s government, the average Palestinian, and the average Israeli.

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            Seems like you’re the one flirting with a little anti semitism. We’ll why can’t I just hate the jews just a little bit!

            Its not a straw man if people are literally saying death to jews. Yeah not everyone. But there’s plenty of other speech that’s in the same realm of death to jews that people are facing consequences for, and also people who simply condemned the Jewish response and also got fired. Obviously one deserves it, the other does not.

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            There are a lot of people out there calling Hamas “freedom fighters”, and calling the 10/7 attacks “resistance”. It’s not really a straw man. Expressing these kinds of violent opinions comes with deserved consequences, and when these people do fuck around and find out, I expect to see plenty of “because I was pro-Palestine” crocodile tears.

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      I think it’s the grey area where there is no clear line where the problem is. In the article there are cases where a line was considered crossed for using words like “genocide” to describe what Israel is doing and the much maligned “from the river to the sea” slogan (what people seem to forget is that it is a rhetorical inversion of the first article in Likud’s foundational Manifesto).

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        The slogan predates Likud. Likud was mocking it, not the other way around. Like 10 years difference if not more.

        It’s always been genocidal and the original Arabic ends with “Palestine is Arab”. 75% of Palestinians in Palestine use it that way. It was also Saddam Hussein’s last words.

        It’s also vaguely an allusion to the Song of the Sea which is a daily Jewish prayer. The song has a strong “drowning people” part.