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    9 months ago

    Nah Thanos was a cool villian. Musk is Syndrome.

    He wanted to be a cool superhero, but he sucks at it so he’s angry and became a villian.

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      Syndrome was at least somewhat sympathetic, you can see how he got to where he was. Musk is more like Tighten, a loser who lucked into his “power” and abuses it thinking he’s owed and still thinks he’s a hero

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        yep this is the most accurate, Titan is stupid arrogant and his power was completely by fluke. Sums up Musk precisely. good job.

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        I literally can’t think of a character who I loathed as much as this one, and Jonah Hill turning out to be a massive, insecure asshole didn’t help a bit.

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          I don’t actually have any particular problem with that. So he dabbled in Goth - nothing wrong with it. I’ve been around that particular block, and the Goths I’ve met were very nice people. I’ve had my own leather and medieval phases, and am not embarrassed about them. If anything, they taught me a bit about variety and individuality, and helped make me the person I am today. Maybe if Musk had actually leaned into it properly and allowed himself to explore that or another niche space, maybe even find himself in it, he might be a bit more balanced and happy today.

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    There was a group people who saw through his bullshit back then. I deeply regret dismissing them.

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      I remember him being portrayed as this genius who had a good grasp of every technical subject he was interested in by reading books 24/7. I am gonna admit, I did kind of find it plausible at the time.

      It is funny how ridiculous that now sounds after seeing his interviews, social media messages, leaked internal emails and such.

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      Well I’d like to thank you. I’ve been considering watching that movie because my friend wouldn’t shut up about it. Now that I know Ed Norton is in it I can say fuck that and avoid it at all possible costs.

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        Not to spoil it, but edward norton does a good job of playing an unlikeable main character. It was silly but fun and worth the watch i think.

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          Yeah well he also does a great job at being an unlikeable human too. I’ll pass.

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            Finding norton to be a piece of shit will actually make that film even more enjoyable (if such a thing is possible)

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          He was basically blacklisted from a huge section of Hollywood for pulling what I’d refer to as a Chevy Chase. Only difference is that Ed retained his talent. No shortage of reporting on it either. It’s why he ran off to the tech world for a hot second. People just don’t want to work with him. Personally I’ve had a run in with him too, or been in the same area anyway. He was getting angry with some barrista that they didn’t recognize him and give him the drink for free. Was at that point I decided to purposefully never give him any attention because the motherfucker clearly has too much if that went that far to his head.

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            You’re of course free to watch whatever you like, but it seems to be that if you are going to boycott anything which involves someone who happens to be an asshole, then there isn’t going to be anything left for you to enjoy.

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              I’m not boycotting it. I just don’t want to watch it. I don’t care if he works or does whatever. My point is I do not want to waste my time on his existence. After seeing him rave like a narcissistic lunatic cunt I cannot see anything but that now. His characters don’t exist to me, I can’t see them. I only see the smug prick that is Ed Norton.

              There are plenty of Hollywood assholes. Some I don’t watch. Some I do.

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              They’re not though.

              They’ve personally encountered an arsehole and decided they want nothing to do with them. That isn’t presented as a blanket statement in any way, shape or form, just specific to Edward Norton.

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            Honestly, getting blacklisted by Hollywood should be a commendable accomplishment today. We’ve long since figured out that “difficult to work with” is often code for “wouldn’t suck my cock”, both literally and figuratively.

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            I did some Googling just now and all I can find is that there was bad blood between him and the directors. I’m also not nearly in the loop enough to know what “pulling a Chevy Chase” means (Google is no help there either). Could you please elaborate on that?

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              Yeah, that bad blood between him and directors is what I’m talking about. He pissed off so many that no one wanted to work with him anymore which is why his acting career was non-existent for the past few years. He couldn’t get a job so he ran off to silicon valley and started hanging out with the tech bros until they got annoyed with his shit too. His shit? Well that’s the ‘Chevy Chase’ thing I was talking about. General arrogance, a belief that he’s gods gift to mankind, over extending of his talent and intelligence and a routine shattering of any relationship he makes due to his own arrogance.

              The tl;dr is that Chevy Chase got stupid famous, over reached, was rude to a lot of people who didn’t want to deal with him anymore and he fell out of favor and into obscurity. He then came back with Community but was acting the exact same on the show so lost it all again.

              The not tl;dr…

              Chevy Chase was a comedic actor on SNL and got very very popular on it with a phrase “I’m Chevy Chase and you’re not.” Would do the Weekend Update and to great love. Was the most popular person on the show by a mile. He started doing movies and such and it all immediately went to his head. Couple seasons into SNL and he had a massively inflated ego and would throw his weight around wherever. Would insult whoever he wanted, do whatever he wanted and generally act like he was Gods gift to mankind. An insane amount of drugs was done as well (dunno about that when it comes to Ed Norton) and his arrogance became unmatched. He would argue with directors and other actors and pretend like he was the best thing in the movie because he was the A List star in it. He also did, during this period of great fame and assholery, two Comedy Central Roasts. The first one had a bunch of people from SNL and people he worked with who gently roasted him as this was during the days when it was based off of the Briars Club, a NYC old boys group that did a lot of these in roasts. For 5 years they made a deal with CC to air them. Chevys was one of the roasts. The deal ran out though and Comedy Central decided to make their own roasts. Chevy, liking the first one, decided to come back for another and Comedy Central was more than happy to oblige. Problem though. No one wanted to be on it. Chevy had run out of friends in Hollywood. He had pissed off too many directors and producers and shit talked his cast mates too frequently. No one liked him anymore. So the Roast was filled with nobodies. Now they’re all fairly well known with Marc Maron and Stephen Colbert being amongst the roasters but at the time no one knew who they were. Colbert even talked about that in his roast section which broke Chevy. You can see his face visibly change throughout the roast. This is that section. I post it simply because of how fucking brutal it is.

              Uh… Geez, I’m, I’m kind of at a loss here. I don’t really know what to say. Uh, I know that these roasts usually involve a fair amount of good natured ribbing, but, uh, when I was asked to do this I was informed that this was actually gonna be honoring Mr. Chase, and I am appalled at some of the things that I have heard said about this man, and I don’t, I don’t really mean out here, I mean backstage, some really hideous, hurtful, hate filled things, you could never take back, and I just, I will not be party to it.

              I’m sorry, I’ve gotta draw a line, because, who am I, to attack Chevy Chase? I don’t know Chevy Chase, I have never met Mr. Chase, I’m actually, I’m uncomfortable calling him Chevy. The only thing I think of when I look at this man, is there, but for the grace of God, go I! Why would I tempt the comedy gods to strike me down like this? To leave me pale, and pear shaped, a humorless husk of my former self, haunting the halls of Hollywood like some sort of walking, waking cautionary tale, shapeless and odorless and colorless, gray on beige, a comedy lamprey just sucking the joy out of everything I touch? [long pause of heavy laughter from everyone] I won’t do it!

              Over the decades Mr. Chase and his fellow, original, Saturday Night Live… sketch-a-teers [pause for laughter] have found fame and fortune making us laugh, but for some of these people, it went to their head. We know that Dan Aykroyd has tried the dramatic arts, of course Bill Murray very famously over reached with “The Razor’s Edge,” but this man never forgot what got him wherever it is he thinks he is. He never, ever attempted to do anything that was in any way different than the last thing he did. And that is so refreshing in its sameness.

              Finally tonight I’d like to offer a little bit of warning to the rest of the people who have to come up here and talk about this good man. Before you attack him, think! There may come a day, in your darkest hour, when you are a shadow of your, albeit paper thin, self, and when that day comes, I hope you are cheered up, by something that Mr. Chase so famously said: He’s Chevy Chase, and you’re not. And if that doesn’t cheer you up, I don’t know what will.

              Edward Norton is the dramatic acting version of Chevy Chase. Massively talented, massively famous, and massively egotistical to the point of damn near losing everything and having to take a break before coming back. Whether he continues to shoot himself in the foot or not is yet to be seen.

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          Haven’t seen the first one either. I’m not big on movies for some reason. Can watch a season of a show in a day or two but can’t watch a movie

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            If you like funky murder mysteries, you’ll like the first one.

            It’s pretty damn good, and a bit shocking to see Daniel Craig put on a good take on a southern accent.

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    Musk wishes he was as cool and relatable as Thanos. Naw, dawg, I see Muskrat as a spoiled brat who always gets his way or takes his ball and goes home.

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    Thanos has a level of composure, forethought, and planning that I don’t associate with Musk. I’d say he’s more like Loki in the first Avengers movie: emotional, destructive, and in way over his head.

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      Nah, Loki at least has a plan. He’s more like Pierce Hawthorne from Community. A guy who can’t seem to get along with anybody, who desperately wants to be cool, failing constantly, but who uses his money to make up for that.

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    I literally never saw Musk as a real life Tony Stark. He always was more or less ‘some tech executive’ to me, but my perception of him change to ‘toxic shithead’ the moment he lashed out at people criticising his submarine idea.

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    This so resonates with me, I used to think he was amazing. Now I wouldn’t buy a Tesla because of the petulant man-child.

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      Thanos was a decent person who had a good idea.

      Yeah, no. He was not decent and his idea of halving “all life in the universe” to save resources was proof that he lacked a second neuron to realize that, at best, that would just postpone the problem

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        Thanos was Hollywood’s continued slander of Environmentalists via straw-men. They can not and will not portray any treat to the status quo as good because to succeed in Hollywood, you need to learn to navigate said status quo.

        Musk isn’t far from Stark as Stark could have scaled up his Arc Reactor and made dirty energy obsolete, but didn’t the same way that Musk could run his businesses and treat his employees fairly, but chooses not to out of pure ego.

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        Just do it again from time to time.

        Can set a reminder for every 10 years. You don’t have to be a genius for that.

        Honestly people don’t think at all do they?

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      No he wasn’t, his idea was shit.

      Halving something means that, at 7% growth per year, you’re right back where you were in 10 years. Traumatic events usually make people multiply like bunnies for a while so yeah… Even in the best case scenario, he’d murder trillions of people, traumatize the rest, and all that to buy “the universe” what, 10, 20, maybe 30 years.

      Instead he could go out and teach everyone how to become responsible. Slowly have less babies until, you know, the world evens out in a good number. Earth can be quite nice and stable with, say, 5 billion people, and then you make sure that in average, just as many people are born as they die. Use taxes and other things to control that. Nobody needs to suffer or be bloody murdered or winked out of existence, no dictatorship necessary, just nice teaching.

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        Or he could’ve just doubled all the resources in the universe.

        If you can kill half the universe you could create an infinite resource glitch.

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          Doubling or halving anything would not solve the problem if growth is the problem.

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            I mean he has a glove that can rewrite the fundamental nature of the universe. He could’ve figured it out.

            The funniest part though is that in the comics he only wanted to wipe out half of all life to impress lady death who Thanos was in love with. But apparently a dude wiping half the universe to try to stop getting cucked by Deadpool doesn’t make a great story for a movie.

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        Lol. Some people get way too involved in some mythical lore.

        It’s all irrelevant with the time travel bullshit anyway in Marvel universe. Nothing bad can happen because you can just reverse it all.

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          Eh, it’s not that I’m involved in it, I saw the movies, that’s about it. It just struck me as a seriously dumb idea. This enormously powerful guy who wants to make the universe better by killing half of the people. it was just dumb.

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      Thanos literally had the power to will any resource and reality into existence and he chose to destroy. Let’s call it good intention, but idiotic and psychotic solution.

      But that’s what made him a good villan.

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      I now see Elon as Justin Hammer.

      He damaged his personal image, started working with terrorists, and began trying to replicate other people’s technology.