A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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    What does it matter if they have other political motives? The world is enabling their utter annihilation, children, babies, innocent people with no political ambition. That must be stopped before we wring our hands about what they might do with freedom. They are human beings, people with lives and families, not wild rabid animals.

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      6 months ago

      The world isn’t enabling a Palestinian annihilation. The world is working to resolve the conflict.

      You guys need to stop pretending that you are the only good people and everybody else is evil. That’s part of the issue here.

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          I am Canadian-American and haven’t met a single person who likes genocide.

          Maybe you hang out with different kinds of people in different parts of the world.

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            6 months ago

            I guess you haven’t met the defense contrators, weapons manufacturers and politicians who are rich because of wars and genocide. I haven’t personally met many of them either, average people don’t associate with those types.

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              If genocides were good for profits, every nation beholden to capitol would be engaging in them.

              That’s the issue with genocides for capitalists, by definition they have an end goal and thus a theoretical point in which the profits cease.

              A genocide is probably better understood as an outflow of desperation on the behalf of corporatists.

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                6 months ago

                True, I don’t think pragmatic people in the arms industry would push for genocide, a more drawn out, even conflict would be better for their profits probably. But if there is one they can make money on they will, even if one side is eradicated and the fighting stops there are always other conflicts.

                In the example of Israel, if they succeed in eradicating their current target (Palestine) there will be more enemies for them to fight, so they would still be a valuable client of Lockheed Martin et al.

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                  6 months ago

                  I’m not yet convinced eradication is the final goal, though the aspect of desperation shown by Netanyahu certainly causes me to fear it could go that way.

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                    You can look through the history of statements by the average Israeli politicians, military officials and pundits to get a sense of their goal, it can be deduced by their actions but they been more or less open about it for years. The political history of and statements by the Israeli minister of national security Itamar Ben-Gvir is a good example of the general zeitgeist of the political bloc in power in Israel.