• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    The problem is that for many people it’s one Big Mac this week and one Burrito Supreme the next week and Oreos and Doritos in between and Lattes from Starbucks and endless sugary sodas and so many other things people eat in the Western world.

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      Yeah, but that’s not really the company’s fault is it? It’s the person’s choice of what they put in their mouths

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        As I said, it is the company’s fault because they are using science and technology to use your brain against you. You’re blaming the scammed for falling for the scam when there wouldn’t be a scam to fall for in the first place if they weren’t running that scam. It’s not the victim’s fault.

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        This is the victim-blaming lie that got us to where we are in the first place.

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        not really the company’s fault is it? It’s the person’s choice of what they put in their mouths

        a lot of these garbage foods full of chemicals and devoid of quality are specifically marketed as “healthy.” that is 100% on the corporations lying to the world. pick up a package of protein bars with words like “smart,” or “perfect” in the name of the product, and look at the ingredients–it’s literally a candy bar, disguised as something “healthy”

        yes, everyone ultimately decides what they eat, but are you really going to blame the people being lied to instead of the ones doing the lying?

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          Yep, one of the many, many psychological tools in their toolbox- convincing you it’s good for you.

          Honey Nut Cheerios has 9 grams of sugar per serving. A serving is, as usual, far less Cheerios than anyone would likely eat- 3/4 of a cup.

          https://www.fooducate.com/product/General-Mills-Honey-Nut-Cheerios/6C7863A6-2AF4-11E1-AFF9-1231380C18FB

          There’s nothing good for you about it. The number one ingredient is oats because if the number two ingredient, sugar, was the number one ingredient, it wouldn’t taste like Cheerios.

          Also note the word “can” in “can help lower cholesterol.” That “can” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

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            if the number two ingredient, sugar,

            another trick they all use is to divide the sugar up into several different kinds of sugar, eg. clif bars have brown rice syrup, tpioca syrup, cane syrup, organic cane sugar, cane sugar. because each of these comprise a smaller percentage of the total, they can be lower in the ingredient list. but you’re still getting 16g added sugar in a 68 gram “healthy” protein bar

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              Define “healthy”, though. People eat them because they pack energy into a bar that’s easily thrown in a bag. I’ve never heard of someone eating them and expecting to turn thin and pretty.

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                Clif Bars do not say they are healthy, but look at the packaging and think about what it is saying to the consumer.

                It says “sustained energy.” Energy is good! So that must mean it’s good for you! And then there’s that healthy-looking mountain climber. That’s the sort of person who would eat a Clif Bar, right? A healthy mountain climber and not some person who sits on their butt in an office cubicle all day. And look at those mountains in the background! That’s nature! These bars must have natural ingredients!

                It’s much more subtle than you think. And, like I said, it works.

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                ok, sub out protein bars for literally anything in the middle aisles in red and yellow packaging that says “healthy”

                if it’s not saturated with sugar, then it will be with salt. or both. not to mention shitty overprocessed oils

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          You realise chemicals is just a scary science word that doesn’t need to mean anything bad? You can make your point without making it sound like some scientist is deliberately trying to poison you. Water is a chemical for fuck’s sake.

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        The notion of “choice,” and “free will” has largely been called into doubt by scientists.

        Second, when (as the above-user mentioned) a corporate conglomerate has millions if not billions of dollars to spend on marketing teams, behavioral scientists, psychologists, etc., that tends to overwhelm our finite willpower and short-circuits our primal neural motivators.

        Ultra-Processed Foods have tastes and caloric densities in abundance that simply is not found in the wild so easily except for honey guarded by angry bees and salt licks… What do you think that does to the brain whose evolutionary past is still firmly rooted in hunting-and-gathering?

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        You people are funny. I don’t give af about the downvotes, so press that button all you want, lol.

        But. The “tricking us into eating stuff” isn’t true for everyone. Only the weak willed.

        If it was a 100% effective strategy, we’d all be overweight.

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          I know you believe yourself to be a free willed person who cannot be influenced subconsciously via marketing. You’ve arrived at that position because marketing and propaganda have targeted you to make you believe as such. It is extremely effective. You are human, you are just as susceptible to marketing and propaganda as the rest of us.

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            Of course I am.

            I never said I don’t fall for it, I said I know my limits of over consumption.