Men dream as male character, women dream as female character how do trans persons dream then? Trans men as men?? Trans women as women??

  • shneancy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    as a trans man i think my dreams have weirder things to unpack than my POV character’s gender, but overall it varies, 96% of the time i’m just me, those 4% of dreams i remember that i was someone else have a pretty 50/50 gender split

    and per the me part: i’m a man but gender never really comes up so i’d be more inclined to say i’m just me

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    4 months ago

    As a cis man, I’m confused. I mean I just dream about my self, do people sometimes not? Like I at most have altered memories in dreams, but it’s still fundamentally me.

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    4 months ago

    I’ve had a few dreams as a cis male where I was a woman, so basically I reject your premise. However in most dreams I’m not even a character, I’m just the perspective from which the story is experienced.

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
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    3 months ago

    I rarely dream, and when I do, it’s either a nightmare or the most borderline trash imaginable. I dreamt once about myself, and it was about me being trans specifically.

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    4 months ago

    probably most often one dreams as the gender they are but i often dream i can fly and breathe underwater all the time so i wouldn’t say it’s a red flag or invalidating if you happen to dream as a gender you aren’t. :)

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    4 months ago

    Cis male but if the topic is dreams and identity I once had a kick ass lucid dream where I transformed into a Killik and got to experience being a humanoid insect with 4 arms and 2 legs.

  • a new sad me@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Boringly straight man here: I usually dream as myself, but occasionally I’m dreaming that I’m someone else. Could be either a man or a woman. Sometimes I have no body at all.

    So I know nothing about how common my style of dreams are, but I don’t see any reason why trans people would have to dream a single persona all the time.

  • audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    Trans women are women and trans men are men.

    As somebody who is nonbinary, I dream as some version of myself.

    Also, please use “trans women” and “trans men”. Removing the space is a TERF red flag.

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      4 months ago

      do you have a citation for your final sentence? i had never encountered this, ever, and could find nothing in a fairly deep search.

      • shneancy@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        as someone who knows a lot about TERF discourse second hand (not a fan of personally engaging with them) - TERFs are more likely to say “transwoman” than “trans woman”. I don’t have a proper citation but I’ll try to walk you through the logic of it

        what “transwoman” implies is that it’s not a “real woman” (never realwoman, of course). It subtly excludes trans women from the title of “women” by making the word itself seem like it’s some sort of third option, not a real woman, not a man, a “transwoman”.

        trans inclusive communities nearly always have the space, that’s because trans women are simply a sub-category of women, and not something different altogether.

        though nowadays you’re also likely to see more outspoken TERFs say “TIM” which stands for “trans identified male” (they mean trans women)

        bottom line is, in online spheres trans friendly people and sources will almost always have the space, and trans exclusive people and sources tend to write that as one word

        it’s the same sort of linguistic shift that prompted the trans community to stop using “transsexual” move to “trans[gender]” and now “trans [gender]”. Even though in essence they all mean the same, some of them have been used by groups that hate us much more than others. (For a similar example see “stupid” > “retarded” > “special needs” > “special” > “intellectually disabled”. All the words before “intellectually disabled” are medical terms turned insults, and honestly i’m not even sure if “intellectually disabled” isn’t halfway there already)