• sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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      As though we just do societal collapse on Wednesday and then start living our best lives on Thursday?

      Commenter never said that. So you’re just strawmannning. Do you honestly think capiatlism and consumerism will do an about face and start taking care of the rapidly degrading environment? If not, it would seem that we then we need to change how we behave, soon-- right? Accelerationists are at least doing something, even if it may not be the right plan, while you are whining to keep the exact status quo going thats killing us all, and doing nothing to improve things .

      To use a metaphor: dont criticise the fat guy working out at the gym while you youself are sitting on your butt, are also fat and have ice cream on your face. If you want to criticise, get off your ass and get to work on something better. Otherwise shut it and let the adults figure out how to save your ass while you do nothing.

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      If capitalism is allowed to continue it will render humanity extinct. If we collapse now, and are reduced to a fraction of our population this century, humanity may live.

      I don’t enjoy that being the best option we have at this point. It brings me no joy. But what brings me less joy is knowing that we won’t even make a choice. We will continue blindly waddling along and as capitalism consumes the world, we will wonder who will save us. And no one will.

      • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
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        Is anyone actually claiming that we’re on a path to extinction? That’s hyperbole.

        This type of thinking is not constructive in any way.

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          We are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event the earth has experienced. As ecosystems collapse, organisms at the top of the food web are in peril. Yes, humans are in danger of extinction.

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            What a silly thing to say.

            You realise extinction requires no living specimens to exist right?

            Some number of humans will prevail even if the only thing left to eat is slime mold.

            Climate change is a big deal. The future is very bleak. People with the power to mitigate the damage are doing the opposite.

            Claiming that human extinction is possible or likely about as helpful as suggesting that ancient aliens have the solution.

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              Claiming that human extinction is possible

              What a silly thing to say, indeed. Of course it’s possible.

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              https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-47540-7

              Don’t miss this bit:

              The bounds are subject to important limitations. Most importantly, they only apply to extinction risks that have either remained constant or declined over human history. Our 200 kyr track record of survival cannot rule out much higher extinction probabilities from modern sources such as nuclear weapons or anthropogenic climate change.

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                Oh sweetheart.

                Did you google “human extinction science” and link the first result without reading it?

                The part you quoted just says modern extinction risks are out of scope for this study.

                It does not say that extinction is probable or likely.

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                  Look, I know it’s not something anyone wants to confront, but I’m not sending it out of malice, or to attack you. There’s no need to be condescending.

                  I simply want to be realistic about the world we live in. From my point of view it is better to be concerned about the possibility of human extinction and act as though it is a potential outcome, rather than to pretend that our species has wholly conquered the laws of nature and is indestructible.

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                  Our 200 kyr track record of survival **cannot rule out much higher extinction probabilities **