• Eheran@lemmy.world
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      I think what we need is governments that don’t kill someone over something he says first.

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        There will always be people in power who use that power to stay in power, its the human condition. The best thing we can do is build systems to help people have free expression that can’t be censored.

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          How would that stop this specific situation at all? The guy wasn’t censored from tweeting, he’s sentenced to death because he tweeted.

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            We get to talk about it, we are aware of it, we can work together as a community to appeal the government, apply sanctions, etc.

            This man is being punished for speech, ensuring speech is available to everyone is the least we can do going forward.

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              And of course that’s important, but your first comment seemed to imply that uncensored internet would have prevented this

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                “Sad this guy is being murdered, but what we really should be talking about is the cause I’m interested in.”

    • WtfEvenIsExistence1️@lemmy.ca
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      Open and free internet doesn’t matter if people are too afraid to talk. I mean, China could turn off the firewall right now, there will not be any increase of dissent online (because dissent gets you harassed by cops, and potentially get arrested).

      The solution to internet surveillance and censorship isn’t just techonologically, but also has to be legislatively. Doesn’t matter how advanced the technology is, if it could just be legislated into a crime.

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        This is exactly why TOR was created, we can’t legislate people safe world wide, but we can give them a voice and a means to communicate.

        End to End Encryption is necessary.

        People who are free to create systems without danger should do so to help those who are in danger.

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      Technically, we could say if the internet was extremely censored and blocked any access to Twitter or VPNs, he wouldn’t be sentenced to death for that reason (but probably killed for another bullshit reason)

      • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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        decentralized internet cannot work

        You heard it here first, folks! Right here in the Fediverse! Let’s go ahead and turn these servers off now, I guess.

        • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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          You couldn’t have read like two sentences forward from that? Or do you always post before you read something?

          • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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            Oh, I read the whole thing and I regretted it. I realized I could have just stopped right there at the beginning.

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        Thank you for putting words into my mouth. That is not what I was trying to say. There will always be bad actors, we have to make people resilient to bad actors.

        The internet, at is core, is designed to be decentralized and work even when huge portions are taken out. Distributed and partionable.

        Also your posting on Lemmy part of the fediverse, which is also decentralized and without central control.

        https://www.hrw.org/topic/technology-and-rights

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        I can’t build a unicorn. But i can help build a free and open internet.

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            You realize your on a open decentralized platform without central controls right now?

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              No, they clearly didn’t read the Fediverse introduction some instances have during sign up!

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              It still relies on government infrastructure. If a government really wants, it can tell its CERT to block some IP range and probably protocols too. If you can block for example torrent at university campus, you can also block it on a country level.

              I remember hearing around the time of Occupy Wall Street about a guy that wanted to create a fully civil network. Everyone wanting to be a part of it would set up a wi-fi node in their home. It seems the idea did not get traction, though