the headline makes it sound like they chose to do this but in reality it was because the courts made them because the original decision was unconstitutional. :)
I’m pleasantly surprised it wasn’t just ignored. Not like anyone would have enforced it.
Deep down I knew there was no chance it wasn’t forced. They’re actively ignoring other court orders so I guess even these evil fucks sometimes realize to pick their battles.
They’re fully aware most of their policies are going to get shot down in court, that’s why they’re carpet bombing the US with bullshit right now.
If we all breath a sigh of relief that some new policy to force toddlers to work in slaughterhouses got shot down, we’re likely missing the 30 odd, convoluted deregulation policies that slip right past the new cycle because they’re written in legalese and seem abstract to 99% of non-wealthy Americans.
I don’t know how many times I can scream that they’re robbing us blind while distracting us with stupid cultural nonsense.
100% they’re literally diarrhoea-shitting policies up the wall and seeing which fecal stains the courts and the economy miss or don’t care about.
Oh I know. Climate change is getting accelerated as fuck right now. And so many other things you cannot even know what to be most concerned about
Actually, if the economy crashes (like under the pandemic) that will slow climate change quicker than our proposed mitigation plans.
sigh of relief
This is a success. We need to do more now. No relief, just motivation.
Cue malicious compliance in 3…2…1…
I’m still glad to see that the military, at least, is still respecting court orders.
As someone who’s competed against all manner of genders in roller derby, lemme tell you, trans people are tough as nails and you want them fighting for America. The USA men’s team for the RD World Cup even has a trans-man, and they beat out 50 biological men for that spot.
You know what’s wild? This is the first time I’ve ever heard of men doing roller derby. I mean, I’m not surprised that men do it, I’m just surprised that I’ve gone my whole life up to this point and never heard of/encountered/or met men that do roller derby. Are all-male teams common in the sport?
Trans men are (or can be) biologically male. The best term to use for ‘non-trans’ men would be cisgender men. ‘Biological’ is the preferred term that bigots use to spread misinformation and insinuate that trans people aren’t real, natural, or equal.
Someone else said it pretty well:
Biological sex is a construct. It is based on the observable traits of:
- Primary sexual characteristics
- Secondary sexual characeristics
- Gonadal Sex
- Chromosomal Sex
A fully medically transitioned trans person usually matches a majority of these, so it is totally reasonable to say trans women are biologically female, and trans men are biologically male. Generally, the binary categorization of sex is scientifically unsound; it should be understood as a spectrum.
Respectfully, I’m not going to get into the linguistic gymnastics here. My meaning is clear.
How many WWII films depict trans shows put on for the troops by the troops? Especially in the Navy. Is that all fiction?
My understanding is that this was definitely a thing. It’s been over a decade, but I recall reading a bit about it in a book called ‘Conduct Unbecoming’, a history of gay people in the military.
Note that I’ve just read a few books and am not an expert though. I just don’t care about the genitals of the badass putting on the uniform to protect me.
I never wanted to be told what to do, much less when to put my life in danger, so the military wasn’t a great fit for me. However, I’d be 100% astounded if gay and cross dressing soldiers, seamen etc. weren’t a somewhat common thing throughout the ages, about as or more common than trans-gender in society today, which Google currently rates as about 1/200 people.
I’m going to be optimistic for now that this is a sign that the military is concerned with honoring their oaths to uphold our Constitution by following due process etc, after 100 days of profoundly disturbing attempts by the Executive branch to dishonor the highest of laws in our land.
I’m sure they are worried about driving away talent as well.
My very first thought was “wow, the pentagon really ran all of their best programmers away and now they’re scrambling.”
I’ll be honest, even if that is the only real reason for them doing this, I would still consider this good news.
this is a sign that the military is concerned with honoring their oaths to uphold our Constitution
They want meat for the meat-wall. Let’s not get too optimistic.
No, really, the world’s largest volunteer fighting force, and we also have the distinction of the world’s biggest and most powerful military, so the brass had to do everything and anything to keep the ranks open wide for anyone who wants to go get themselves killed while burning brown kids in far away lands.
The slightly less cynical take is that we absolutely cannot diminish our enlisted forces any more. We have growing threats from Russia, an unstable president who may start a war with Iran for fun, instability between China, Taiwan and Philippines, just to name a couple of hotspots. If we get in a large-scale fight and don’t have every advantage we’re very likely to lose all status in the world.
The administration knows this. They are distracting you all with these culture-war bullshit fights knowing full well that most of them will either get shot down in court or overridden at some point. While we’re all focused on trying to stop the latest bill to force toddlers to work in kitten slaughterhouses, they’re passing 30 new policies that deregulate the financial sector and repeal laws that limit corporate power, which our illiterate population ignores because it’s boring.
Why did this happen? Where did a random W come from? Everything is falling apart and no one is doing anything about it and we just get a W out of nowhere from nothing? How do we do it again
Court
That, and Hegseth seems to be spending all his time being paranoid about leaks when he’s the biggest leaker. Between that and day drinking, he doesn’t have much time in his schedule to actually advance fascism.
He’s concerned over leaks about his leaks. Literally.
Didn’t think I’d end up saying this but thank god he made that moron.
no one is doing anything about it
A lot of people are doing a lot about it. Might be time to step away from the Internet if you really believe that. The reality is dark enough you don’t need to make it out to be even worse
This is about everyone suffering from gender dysphoria. They say they’re attacking trans people, who make up a small fraction of society, but they’re attacking treatments for a diagnosis anyone could have. This stuff helps a lot of people, more than we might typically think about.
I’m confused. So we’re listening to court orders now?
Great news though
Pleasant as this is, I wonder how they’re going to keep the crybaby-in-chief from demanding they stop again as part of his ‘dei is evil’ crusade.
huge W
There is going to be an open rift between the US military and government very soon, I’m calling it. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to a full-on civil war
A military coup is one of the best-case scenarios and requires a little more optimism than I have left.
best? I don’t think it would turn out how you think it would…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentina#Infamous_Decade_(1930–43)
Lol
civil war
Okay Tim, what exactly are the battle-lines going to look like in this civil war?
Like the Troubles but an order of magnitude worse.
It’s gonna be trump and co in a bunker under the white house and every 2 minutes they are gonna hear an ever increasing boom above their head. The line is gonna be at crater level.
Though that is unrealitic. It will probably take place at mar-a-lago or some golf court.
How is it gonna be a civil war if the military is not on the governments side? I mean i have seen the stuff the us police and ICE gets, but neither would have the numbers or the tactical knowledge to win from the effing military. If the military would try and overthrow the president, I can’t imagine FBI and CIA would try and stop them.
Might turn out like in Turkey though, were nothing really happened except 100,000 people getting convicted of treason or fired from their job.
Legal Eagle laid it out in a recent video. The administration has been blatantly ignoring (I think several at this point) SCOTUS restraining orders. If they continue to disregard the judiciary, I don’t think it’s all that unlikely that parts of the military arrest Trump and his administration, in what’s effectively a military coup. Trump is deeply unpopular among the military top brass, and they tend to still value the constitution. But who knows who will side with whom, the military is by no means a monolith
The majority of the Supreme Court is in Trump’s back pocket, there will be no actions or repercussions.
I don’t think it’s all that unlikely that parts of the military arrest Trump and his administration… Trump is deeply unpopular among the military top brass, and they tend to still value the constitution
They also value their paychecks, and have to consider a lot more than just whether or not they dislike him. The first magat that is given an order against trump is likely to shoot them, and will be able to claim he was just following the principle of not following unlawful orders, AND that he was following the law by trying to then place them under arrest, they resisted, and had to be shot in the scuffle.
Military schisms are tough bitches to handle. I’d say that it is extremely unlikely, as in won’t happen unless trump decides to go to war with canada and europe and china and russia and india at the same time, that the military does anything.
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Christ they know how to play this population.
Every time we all breath a sigh of relief that some new policy to force toddlers to work in slaughterhouses got shot down in court, we’re likely missing the 30 odd, convoluted deregulation policies that slip right past the new cycle because they’re written in legalese and seem abstract to 99% of non-wealthy Americans.
Maybe you misunderstood the problem.
This wasn’t legislation, this was an implemented order. This isn’t the first time it’s happened in the administration either.
It restored something taken away. It undermined the sweeping power of the executive. These are narcissists we’re dealing with, so this isn’t the last we’ve heard about it.
That’s why I keep telling people the courts will use their enforcement mechanism when necessary, or they are complicit in the problem. From what I can tell, enforcement wasn’t necessary here, the DoD just didn’t want to fuck with the court.
On one hand cool, on the other hands troops not cool
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Fuck off. Being trans is not a mental disorder. And stop infantilizing trans people, we can make our own choices about our bodies.
Not according to DSM V: “The APA goes on to say that “it is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.””
Neither according to ICD-11: “Gender incongruence has been moved out of the “Mental and behavioural disorders” chapter and into the new “Conditions related to sexual health” chapter. This reflects current knowledge that trans-related and gender diverse identities are not conditions of mental ill-health, and that classifying them as such can cause enormous stigma.”
Only according to uneducated sad little evolutionary obstacles like yourself. Now get out, touch some grass, read a book and talk to people.
“Service members and all other covered beneficiaries 19 years of age or older may receive appropriate care for their diagnosis of [gender dysphoria], including mental health care and counseling and newly initiated or ongoing cross-sex hormone therapy,”
Neither of those are irreversible or mutilation.
Wow, removed and banned. Based on the comments this must have been highly inappropriate.
Phobes being phobic, unusual enough not one that had a big history of egregious comments so this was a bit of a drop the mask moment.
So what if it’s a disorder? If it’s a disorder that the best treatment for is gender affirming care, then gender affirming care and respecting people’s gender is good.
And you know what else irreversibly changes people’s bodies? A natural puberty that doesn’t align with their gender and causes them dysphoria.
Even quite a bit of cis people get hormones in the military.
I worked out for like 3 months and was stronger than my dad who worked out for over a year. He is now on testosterone gel and I’m starting the HRT estrogen process in ~2 months lol
You mean cis-people also receive gender affirming care? Preposterous! No manly man would ever need to take hormones, their testosterone is so damn high on its own it shapes both bodies and US politics. And all that thanks to this all natural, super-straight, definitely US-made superfood, now for only 16.99$! /s
I’d hate to hang out where you normally find this comment acceptable. Fascist fuck.
Idiot.
I don’t know what you said, but it seems like a pretty shitty thing to say given the responses here.
