• SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world
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    Replacing everyone, especially on a global scale, is unlikely to be possible, since it is too expensive. But working in large companies and earning a lot of money may not work out as before, although this will depend on the country you are in and whether your government goes crazy or not.

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    I once heard an arrogant fuck go on super confidently for like 2 hours about how AI will never master natural speaking voices

    So yeah, be blase about the biggest existential threat to your careers that has ever existed.

    The real tragic part is that all of you laughing are going to be unemployable within a decade

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        The worst part of your undeserved arrogance is that I won’t be there to see it bite you on your ass in a career ending way.

        Maybe take up farming?

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          And here I thought to have heard the funniest joke you can make. Farming. With current climate change dynamics. If I could do that, I would rather do something funnier, like bets.

          And about who would be where: if Lemmy still stands ten years after, chances are I will be here too. But I feel safe to count on “bubble has burst, it’s in the news. How ya feel there” within a few years. Will ping you for sure

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            My great grandfather was a ferrier, a person who shoes horses. He trained from the age of 12 on how to trim hooves and set nails and repair damage. By all accounts he was very good at it. And at the time automobiles were only for the ultra rich as a hobby or a social statement. Horses were for everyone else, and my great granpappy was pretty sure he had a career for life and to heck with those new fangled rotomobiles

            But it took less than 15 years for horse ownership to collapse (and a good thing too, most cities were facing a dung removal logistical nightmare) and he went from a skilled tradesman to a day laborer to a dead alcoholic in less than 20 years

            Maybe you can learn some lessons from his arrogance.

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              yes, in future IF ai replaces me as a programmer(which as explained is not possible), then I shall start working alongside it.

              See cars replaced horses, but not humans, our need for progress is insatiable and I doubt any software program can emulate human intelligence

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              Oh, that I can, and thank you for your message, really. With that said, here is the differences: cars did work as a transport, and AI as it is marketed (magic replacer of all) does not, and even in the narrow use case of programming - no, it does not. It can produce heaps of lines of code, it cannot do the work of building a reliable software that does what is required of it. It has also failed to replace artists. So no, I am not afraid

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      A little more time and a lot more money. But the savings will be huge. The savings will make the current era of extravagant burning piles of money look like a sound investment. You’ll be glad you got in on the ground floor…

      We do need a little more time, though. And money.

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        Also, water. We’ll take all of that please, just pipe it right over to our spot in the desert. We’ll need some more money with that, of course.

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          Everyone complains about water consumption, energy use, and pollution of the ai yet fail to compare the use to its human counterparts

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            Here ya go: in US someone has the audacity to ask people to use less water so that AI can function. Yet the whole city has been growing in population just fine for quite some time. A mystery, right?

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              I never said that. Reread my comment. I want people to say “hey we should use less resources” and a good way to do that is not endlessly replicate ego spawn like a mindless virus.

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            Turning off AI data centers will instantly save water and energy and reduce pollution.

            But the “human counterparts” will still eat and shower if you fire them.

            So unless you are planning to murder all the unemployed people, your argument makes no sense at all.

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              Listen to yourself, Thinking I’d start the reduction with unemployed people as if there isn’t another class of people who do less for society. Try to think outside of the boomer education you received and those indoctrination Sundays

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            Ah, just kill half the humans. That will make water consumption go way down. Follow me for more resource-saving tips

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            If you want me to list the myriad ways that I want humanity to use less water, I can. This just happens to be top of the list because it has no fucking value at all and is expected to use even more than the others.

            I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say here, other than you use chatgpt and want to stan for it. Ask it to compare the water use to human counterparts, whatever you mean by that. Or really, don’t because the water that would waste is certainly not worth it.

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    I’m pleased to report that all those other promised utopia frameworks turned out perfect, and aren’t in any way still a huge daily pain in the ass. I expect no less from this time around. Computers are finally smart. It’s great.

    It’s the AI that is prone to delusions, or was that just me?

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    I won’t be surprised if AI ends up so expensive that they will cost more than actual developers. But as experience has shown, C-Suites prefer expensive and bloated tech than providing developers autonomy, good salaries and good career plans. They see us just as rebellious cogs in the machine.

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    God, I’m so sick of coding. Please. Bring it.

    As of right now though? 5-6 years fie the basics

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        I’m not a coder, but my job requires a bunch of menial, boring coding. I do numerical simulations. After mathematically understanding the numerical method, it’s basically half a step above data entry. There’s also a bunch of legacy fortran code I have to build on that has zero documentation and three letter variables. This would be one of the few actually good applications of text generating machine learning imo.

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            Nobody has built a tool that executes a mathematical method that I have developed or at least adapted, at least not before I publish the method.

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                Because I’m in academia and it’s a slow process to get things published in a way that ‘counts’ to the university and scientific community. I often need to implement stuff first to check a few things, whether it’s viable etc.

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                  That’s not how it works. Put it on GitHub like the rest of us and stop making excuses.

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          If it has three letter variables, chances are it was also written by someone that doesn’t want to code either

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              Back when optimization was Black Magic. Now we just tell the customers they need better hardware.

              Someone probably had to argue hard to get 3 letter variables. Guarantee there was some one arguing for 1 letter variables.

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        This is another fine example of where assumptions get you no where on the internet. My job isn’t coding but it requires knowing to do it well. If I exit the job market, as per your request, I cannot be replaced by a coder. Believe it or not, most jobs that require a coding skillset are not about coding. Crazy, right? 😲

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          “assumptions”? Maybe consider how “I’m so sick of coding” implies you’re doing coding? I’m so sick of driving, oh no somebody ‘assumed’ I’m a driver instead of a mechanic. Believe it or not, most people ‘assume’ something when you use sentences that imply it. CrAZy, riGhT? 😲

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            They said they are doing some coding at their non-coding job. It would be good if AI could replace amateur programmers, it would make better code and take a load off the workers

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              Not in the first comment, and I replayed to the second one only because they were acting like a stereotypical obnoxious redditor. As for LMM use, sure it could replace them, just give it a little more time and more money and a bit more money and some more money and also enough data server centres to suck dry entire lakes

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      Well, it won’t come if everybody keeps pushing all the money in the world¹ into LLMs.

      1 - Almost literally.