In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’
Well I’m convinced
What an odd thing to say.
Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao
So….? They did?
Well we know it wasn’t Russia since no windows were involved.
Did anyone check the bullet for polonium? They might have just been trying out a new delivery method
Sus
Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again
I had zero reasons to suspect Israel in this, but now there is one
I hope that people aren’t really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there’s a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don’t think it’s too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.
More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: “You wouldn’t defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!” Which is definitely not a good bar to set.
A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.
Do things ever go any other way over there? 🙄
He did get in bed with them (verifiable TPUSA funding money), as most extreme-right do.
Problem is he turned on them recent months speaking out against their influence over the US and even the genocide.
That’s a no no, they didn’t take it well and were pretty pissed.Sometimes the blame falls on a non-Jew minority group!
Like immigrants! Or black people! Or trans people!
I miss the days when 4chan acted as the fucking quarantine for most of the nazi bullshit on the internet.
I was aware of the theory. It’s sketchy though that they feel the need to say they did something that should be obvious they didn’t. Unless they know they are guilty and feel the need to defend them selves.
I suppose. But if hundreds of people started accusing you of being a secret space alien, you might one day feel the urge to say “listen everyone, I am not an alien, I am a human”. It’s pretty messed up if people hear you say that and go “hmmm exactly what an alien would say tbh”
There’s a separate conspiracy mostly on Instagram that asserts he was wearing a titanium breastplate and the shooting was meant to be staged like Trump’s, but the bullet accidentally ricocheted off the breastplate.
I doubt it tbh but who knows. We have extremely unreliable evidence, eg the text messages that seem manufacturered.
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People on X were theorizing
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Big Lie you say?
40 beheaded raped babies in ovens!
He left behind a wife and two kids. That’s how we know Israel didn’t do it.
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BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf
Being against isreal is not bigotry so save your actual bias for someone that can be trusted to be honest abput it.
Being anti-Israel is not the same as antisemitism, but I believe the previous comment was referring to the actual Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory.
Israelis are a type of actual nazi and not a legitimate source of whom are nazis.
They are openly aligned with literal classic nazis and all the new kinds. Of course they would lie about the motive of anyone accusing them.
This is what I was referring to. Could have phrased it better.
No, it was incredibly obvious
He turned against them and lately dared to speak out on their power over the US and even their genocide.
This while at first he was made big with zionist money and now refused further payment.
He got a lot of criticism from even worse people than himself, like Fuentes and rich zionists demanding he fall back in line.That is not “Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory” but simple facts
What an oddly specific denial…
What an odd thing to formally state.
I feel like I would suspect them less if they hadn’t said anything. Most of Israel’s formal statements regarding allegations of Israeli violence are lies, so what would make this statement different?
Even more importantly… maga is never gonna let that bone go.
This has “OJ Simpson book” energy
Well, he was white and almost as much of a Nazi as them.
Eh, there was “evidence” (a third-party tweet) that Kirk was worried about being killed by Israel shortly before his death.
It’s not like this came out of nowhere.
He was a raging antisemite. Of course a raging antiemetic whack job would be concerned about them killing him.
Wait, antisemite definition one ‘hates Jews’ or antisemite definition two ‘thinks Palestinians are people’? Definition one has nothing to fear.
The original, actual, sense.
He’s a white supremacist. He hated anyone who isn’t white. He’s said some pretty horrific things about Jews, even if he’s nominally okay with an Israeli state (because fascists of a feather…)
Right; they love people who hate Jews. Why the fuck would they kill him?
I dunno.
They didn’t ask me if they should.
(and the only- and I mean only- reason I’d be inclined to say they did kill Kirk was because they just let everyone know they most certainly did not kill him.)
There’s a funny babylon 5 clip here. the backstory is that her boss, Captain Sheridan, asked her to slip in that nothing happened in sector 83x9x12. She balked saying that her thing not being propaganda. She gives in, because in point of fact nothing happened, at all. He also did other things like having a fleet of ships move around and shoot random rocks in quiet spaces… all because he was trying to get a cantankerous group of allied worlds (ironically named, “league of non-allied worlds”…) to sign a thing bringing them into a more formal alliance. These worlds saw the whites stars shooting at the rocks, saw the announcement, and were like “White stars don’t shoot at nothing! there must be an enemy we can’t see!” (and then handed him everything he wanted.)
Wait, Jews aren’t white?
“White” is an ever-moving target, dancing on the whims of whether the suit-and-tie-wearing white guy thinks he can get you to build him a railroad.
So, the answer is yes and no.
According to Charlie Kirk? Nope.
For white supremacists it’s not really about skin color (well, some might actually be that stupid,) but rather about culture, and their culture being “special”
Keep in mind, 19th century people saw them as a distinct race, and Kirk’s views (as well as, for example hitler’s) stem from that.
To be clear, Kirk and his ilk are assholes with a very backwards view of the world.
Definitely 1. Is position over Israel and Palestine seems to have been all over the place. There are videos of him saying Netanyahu is lying about Gaza, and he we was firmly against Israel’s attack on Iran, but then he would also say absurd stuff like there’s no starvation in Gaza.
Okay. So he was anti-zionist-state but pro genocide?
Bro was a Christofascist. He hated everything that wasn’t a white Evangelical Christian male.
Thats not true. I’m sure he liked his dog. She wasn’t male.
He positioned himself as a zionist but also said disturbing antisemitic crap all the time. From the few videos I watched his positions seemed to be similar to the israeli hostage families’ groups but he sprinkled some actual antisemitic tropes when criticising the Israeli government.
Zionists hate Jews, so it probably balanced out. I wonder why they killed him?
antiemetic
Kirk was very much exactly the opposite of that…
They do so many (illegal) international assassinations, it’s good to clarify
See also Mossad
Probably some quirk of Trump’s personality being catered to.
Makes sense, they’re reaching the point where it’s more efficient to list the people they haven’t killed.
For the record, I can believe that Israel has managed to bomb everything in Gaza except Hamas.
Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!
I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.
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