I mostly use apps installed from F-Droid, so I’m not sure how I’ll use the phone, except that it’s sometimes required as a contact method.
I feel embarassed to say this as someone who is fairly techy, but I’m a little confused by the whole brouhaha.
Is Google making changes to Android, or to AOSP?
If Google is making changes to the Android fork they put on their own phones, then fuck 'em. Use Graphene. Use e/OS/, use Lineage…use something that forks their own branch of AOSP and Google can pound sand because those forks are in no way obligated to make the same changes as Google. AOSP is open source for that very reason.
If Google is making those changes to AOSP itself, which means that anyone who uses AOSP as a base have those changes by default, then isn’t Google obligated to keep those changes as Open Source, in which case anyone else who uses AOSP can just remove them from their own fork?
Someone explain like I’m a particularly dim five-year-old, please.
Install them over ADB like I already sometimes do now
Start giving easy to follow de-googling instructions when and where you know them, people.
The bigger and more thorough the head start, the better.
Leaving android
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i don’t really use apps on my phone anymore other than for maps. i just my phone primarily as a phone.
Fuck i don’t think i can unlock the bootloader of my xiaomi anymore…
Sony update fails anyway, because i froze a non-essential app too much. Oh noes, my phone could be hacked with physical access, in a few years! But by then the phone is in their Open Firnware program and it’s back to a custom ROM again.
The apps are regularly updated of course.
I’m gonna get a linux phone. I used a flip phone and windows phone for a long time. I don’t actually need any of this bullshit.
I only run free/libre Android forks, so I don’t care.
Staying on Graphene for the time being. AFAIK should be able to still install apps whatever way I see fit.
Graphene’s team has stated that they are looking into OEM’s to potentially work out a solution to make a suitable device to run GOS, since Google is locking things down.
If it really comes to it, (long term), I’ll make the jump to a Linux mobile device, whether that’s a phone or a custom solution.
Just because corpo’s are making things difficult, doesn’t mean I’m going to cave. I started this privacy journey 6 years ago and I’m not about to undo it because of greed and inconvenience.
Same thing I do now, don’t use android.
iOS is on track to push ID-based age verification.
We need flip phones like we had back in the 00s. Smartphones are about to get hella dumb.
I don’t use iOS either
I’ll just
adb installthose same apps from f-droid. But my hope is that I will be using mobile linux more and more as a daily-driver, until it eventually replaces Android 100%I mean, unless there’s some alternative that banking apps and such will work on there really isn’t much you can do right?
I use hardware TAN generators and browsers. The cards support NFC payments. My banking apps run fine on Lineage OS and GrapheneOS.
Can’t you use a browser for banking? That’s what I do.
Or really, I just do my banking on the laptop.
Maybe you can use credit cards for everything but here it would be expected to be able to, at worst, pay with a direct transfer, and you’d need a banking app for that.
Really? You can do that in a web browser here, and never been in a situation where I need to make a bank transfer immediately. Only something like paying an invoice which you usually have weeks to pay.
What is the problem with SEPA? It just works.
I’m not in Europe?
Jolla has a Linux OS that supports Android apps. Works for Swedish banking apps, at least.
GrapheneOS for as long as it s available, then probably PostmarketOS for that Nokia N95 experience
keep using graphene os
