It’s not, AND these are “guidelines”, which will amount to nothing.
Hell it doesn’t even need to be about lady bits for doctors to be dismissive. My wife has been through 3 GP’s trying to get some hip pain looked at. Finally found one that would at least do imaging, but they just kinda shrugged it off while she can’t even go foot over foot up/down steps.
She finally said screw it and went right to a PT. They had it 50% better two sessions later.
The real kicker? The GP’s who both blew her off were women.
How are we supposed to punish every single member of the tiny minority who abuse the system if we’re not allowed unlimited collateral damage with impunity?
It definitely didn’t when it put people in internment camps. I know people alive today who have defended that decision. That’s a small sample size, but it does support your argument.
It’s the mass suffering of the “lessers“ who can’t afford doctors who will just give them whatever drug they ask for. These people actually believe that being unsuccessful, or even slightly less fortunate, is some kind of moral failing, and, therefore, you deserve your fate.
It’s an ideology that is certainly popular here in the United States (although, far from the majority sociopolitical orientation), but it’s hardly unique to here, nor did it originate here. Humans have been both greedy and exploitative of other humans for our entire history. This isn’t an excuse, just sayin…
Edit: you know, I think a good example of American exceptionalism in practice is the rather foolish belief that once any group here has finally won any civil rights that we will just continue to have them forever without any work or effort in order to maintain or keep them.
Functional democracy are hard work. But they’re worth it.
fucking shoulders… I had a rotator cuff that was hell for 6 years. I’m perfectly fine now, but I refuse to reach behind and to the right in the car to this day.
I’ve been told it ranges from “it’s a quick pinch”, through “that’s just the way it is” to “we could give a numbing shot, but it would be just as uncomfortable and make this take longer so there’s no point”.
As a man looking in from the outside, women’s reproductive healthcare has a level of dismissiveness around pain that makes the dumbest machismo look quaint. There’s the male doctors who just dismiss women’s pain, and the female doctors who know and just “that’s how it is” it. And then the one 50 year old obstetrics doctor in the country who understands the balance of “childbirth intrinsically hurts” and “we can manage the hell out of pain if we actually do our jobs” who gets to enter a room for 30 seconds, implicitly convey that they’re a saint and perfect human being and then immediately get paged to perform emergency surgery for a car accident involving multiple pregnant women, at least in our experience.
That last bit is the only exaggeration. I’m sure there’s actually two or three doctors like her per state. The rest is true.
Dismissiveness towards women’s pain is upsettingly common in healthcare. From plain old sexism (a woman’s 7/10 is a mans 4/10 because women are sensitive) to women’s symptoms manifesting differently than men’s (women’s heart attacks don’t present the same as men’s, and differences in abdominal anatomy means there’s more ways for pain to mask itself as coming from somewhere else.), the end result is that I can’t think of a women I know and have talked to about it who hasn’t laughingly referenced a doctor dismissing their pain and ordering a pregnancy test.
I thought I was going to pass out on the drive home. I should not have driven home. I didn’t make proper transportation arrangements because I didn’t know what to realistically expect. I have no idea how I got home.
There are no nerves in the cervix?? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Maybe it’s just nerves everywhere around the cervix which funnily enough, makes no difference
They told my wife this, but she’s on blood thinner and can’t have ibuprofen. Least you can do is read her medical history before telling her to take a dangerous drug combo
Holy crap, is it not currently?
It’s not, AND these are “guidelines”, which will amount to nothing.
Hell it doesn’t even need to be about lady bits for doctors to be dismissive. My wife has been through 3 GP’s trying to get some hip pain looked at. Finally found one that would at least do imaging, but they just kinda shrugged it off while she can’t even go foot over foot up/down steps.
She finally said screw it and went right to a PT. They had it 50% better two sessions later.
The real kicker? The GP’s who both blew her off were women.
Many doctors dismiss a significant amount of pain complaints in general because of the small minority of drug abusers seeking pain meds.
How are we supposed to punish every single member of the tiny minority who abuse the system if we’re not allowed unlimited collateral damage with impunity?
It would seem that America doesn’t have a problem with collective punishment
It definitely didn’t when it put people in internment camps. I know people alive today who have defended that decision. That’s a small sample size, but it does support your argument.
It’s the mass suffering of the “lessers“ who can’t afford doctors who will just give them whatever drug they ask for. These people actually believe that being unsuccessful, or even slightly less fortunate, is some kind of moral failing, and, therefore, you deserve your fate.
Ghouls
American Exceptionalism hard at work.
That’s not what american exceptionalism means
It’s an ideology that is certainly popular here in the United States (although, far from the majority sociopolitical orientation), but it’s hardly unique to here, nor did it originate here. Humans have been both greedy and exploitative of other humans for our entire history. This isn’t an excuse, just sayin…
Edit: you know, I think a good example of American exceptionalism in practice is the rather foolish belief that once any group here has finally won any civil rights that we will just continue to have them forever without any work or effort in order to maintain or keep them.
Functional democracy are hard work. But they’re worth it.
In this case it’s a remnant of the history of gynecology being using slave women as unwilling test subjects and dismissing all objections from them
worsened by opiod crisis, and homeless population.
Well, as I can’t afford medical care, I wouldn’t know this. TIL.
I have a shoulder injury. I’m down to 6 pain pills and i’m so anxious about requesting more.
fucking shoulders… I had a rotator cuff that was hell for 6 years. I’m perfectly fine now, but I refuse to reach behind and to the right in the car to this day.
I’ve been told it ranges from “it’s a quick pinch”, through “that’s just the way it is” to “we could give a numbing shot, but it would be just as uncomfortable and make this take longer so there’s no point”.
As a man looking in from the outside, women’s reproductive healthcare has a level of dismissiveness around pain that makes the dumbest machismo look quaint. There’s the male doctors who just dismiss women’s pain, and the female doctors who know and just “that’s how it is” it. And then the one 50 year old obstetrics doctor in the country who understands the balance of “childbirth intrinsically hurts” and “we can manage the hell out of pain if we actually do our jobs” who gets to enter a room for 30 seconds, implicitly convey that they’re a saint and perfect human being and then immediately get paged to perform emergency surgery for a car accident involving multiple pregnant women, at least in our experience.
That last bit is the only exaggeration. I’m sure there’s actually two or three doctors like her per state. The rest is true.
Dismissiveness towards women’s pain is upsettingly common in healthcare. From plain old sexism (a woman’s 7/10 is a mans 4/10 because women are sensitive) to women’s symptoms manifesting differently than men’s (women’s heart attacks don’t present the same as men’s, and differences in abdominal anatomy means there’s more ways for pain to mask itself as coming from somewhere else.), the end result is that I can’t think of a women I know and have talked to about it who hasn’t laughingly referenced a doctor dismissing their pain and ordering a pregnancy test.
My doctor told me to take a couple ibuprofens before. Did the thing. Made me lie there for a few minutes then set me loose.
I vomited in the parking lot afterwards.
I vomited in the exam room and passed out. I think they finally realized I wasn’t kidding.
What did they do when you passed out?
I thought I was going to pass out on the drive home. I should not have driven home. I didn’t make proper transportation arrangements because I didn’t know what to realistically expect. I have no idea how I got home.
My gf got told “it’s a pinch” and “there are no nerves in the cervix you won’t feel it”.
They stab that shit with sharp pincers to hold it open. Ohhh it hurts.
There are no nerves in the cervix?? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Maybe it’s just nerves everywhere around the cervix which funnily enough, makes no difference
Lololol no, you’re just told to take an ibuprofen
They told my wife this, but she’s on blood thinner and can’t have ibuprofen. Least you can do is read her medical history before telling her to take a dangerous drug combo