• ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
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    Reposting a comment I made on a similar post about the 180 mental gymnastics MAGA are displaying.

    What you’re witnessing here is described in When Prophecy Fails, a study on cults and how they justify continued belief after experiencing events that should disprove their belief.

    Cult members will simply invent new reasons to continue their belief and remove the cognitive dissonance they may feel, which oddly results in a further entrenched belief, instead of a weakened one.

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    Cult. Endless denial. Forever rejecting reality. What more would it take to have these people given straight jackets?

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    Trump really painted himself into a corner by promising the QAnons all of the dirt on Epstien, and I’m very curious to see if a narrative like this can dig him out. They’ll usually twist reality into knots to keep their narrative alive, but, “Epstien was a white hat,” might he a bridge too far, even for them.

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      Doesn’t matter.

      Remember that “I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave” line? Turns out he meant “I could rape a child,” and these people would STILL love him.

      This is their loyalty test now. This is how low this sleeze will take them this week.

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        I think that’s true for some MAGAs, but the QAnons have invested deeply in the child-trafficking conspiracy. I think if he created a narrative of, “Yes, I’m on the client list, but it was a double agent for the deep state,” they would swallow it (most of them already believe some version of that), but telling them that their is no conspiracy and they need to move on will not go over well. (Of course, claiming to be an Epstien double-agent is gonna make him look crazy to anyone not Q-pilled, so he can’t do that).

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          I think that’s already where Newsmax is going (per 1 random post I saw 2 days ago and can’t find anymore) calling Epstein possibly an amazing patriot as a CIA/Mossad agent getting intel about… I dunno, the Clintons?

          The retcon fantasy is framed up for the Q nuts. I expect they’ll find a way to stumble into it on their own.

          Edit: found it

          https://lemmy.today/post/33293629

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    Classic propaganda tactic. Speculating about alternative answers after you already know the answer or when everyone knows where the answer is.

    He speculates why did all these rich and powerful people not abandon him? Because he was secretly a good guy? No, you liar, it’s because they were his clients so he could blackmail them if he wanted to.

    He speculates why did he get favorable terms from previous trials? Because he was secretly a good guy? No, you propagandist liar, it’s because he was ultra wealthy and well connected.

    If he was secretly a good guy, he wouldn’t have offed himself in prison, so there’d be a giant investigation over that.

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      Man you got my gears turning. I never considered blsckmail. I wonder if he was running a honeypot operation for israel. I bet everyone in the list just happens to be super pro israel

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        I’m not saying whether he did or not. I’m saying that if he was a good guy, he definitely wouldn’t, and all of his “chivalrous” friends would be dying to get to the bottom of it.

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      This is just one of the Republican insiders being honest for once in their life, claiming Epstein for one of their own like he always was.

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      There is no list… After the Trump administration removed all of his rich peers from the list, no names were left…so no list.

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    Why are Democrats not going on the news and taking every opportunity to call the Republicans pedo protectors?