• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    Wait can someone explain since when is superman not an immigrant? Bro literally fell from the sky or some shit from an alien planet. How the fuck is he not an immigrant? Oh right hes white.

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    I mean, he may be right that it’ll hurt the box office to polarize the public, but Superman is as much an illegal alien as you can get.

    Come to think of it, what is the story regarding his birth certificate, citizenship etc? Did Ma and Pa Kent claim a home birth and get him documented?

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      Depends on what comics. From what i read in some comic series he was actually birthed on earth and was able to run for president. While in other comic series he came as a baby and was adopted ( which, if unknown origins, means us citizenship iirc ).

      Edit: not sure why im getting downvoted. I said what is true, that in most comics he’s a baby that came from krypton, and due to us laws was basically adopted as a us citizen. Doesnt make him less of an immigrant…

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        That is only the story in a couple of comics of the 90’s.

        Since its conception in the 30’s, Superman has always been an illegal immigrant from Krypton.

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          Correct indeed. Not sure why im getting downvoted though.
          He was an immigrant in most comics, yes. But not illegal lol

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    If the only thing Cain has to whine about in 2025 is denying Superman’s leftist origins written by depression era immigrants, he’s really got nothing to complain about or is trying to distract from some bullshit or sell something

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    I’ve never cared about anything superman related because it is just the most boring premise of a character to me. what’s the best way not get lumped in with idiots like this?

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      If the premise of a superman story is “strong guy fight strong guy,” then yeah, not very interesting. What I’d prefer to see is a story that explores what having superheroes around does to humanity. What happens when a kid copies Superman and jumps off a building, and doesn’t get caught? What happens when police expect a superhero to do their job for them? At what point does Superman decide to step away because he thinks he’s causing more harm than good?

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    Cain voted for Bill Clinton twice, and voted for Al Gore in the 2000 United States presidential election, the latter of which he later said he regretted.[21] He supported John McCain in the 2008 election, and supported Rick Perry in the 2012 election.[30] In 2016 and 2020, he endorsed and voted for Donald Trump.[31][32] He also endorsed him for the 2024 election.[33]

    In 2018, Cain was elected to the board of directors of the National Rifle Association of America.[34][35]

    -Wikipedia

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    Well, you can fuck off Dean Cain.

    Superman is an assimilated Jewish diaspora immigrant.

    “Name?”

    “Kal-El”

    “Clark Kent, got it.”

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    Dollar Store Jerry O’Connell is still around? Figured he’d have drank himself to death about 10 years after Lois and Clark ended.

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    Check out Model Minority by Cory Doctorow.
    It’s about an unnamed superhero (who wears a red cape, and a spandex suit with a big S on it, and is engaged to a journalist named Lois, and his best friend/rival is named Bruce (who has a bat-themed alter ego)… anyway) who realizes that the cops are just beating people up and hiding it, so he makes a stand, but isn’t quite sure about how to do so.

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      Cory Doctorow is a writer who I want to love, i like the plot descriptions of his work and he seems like a really smart and with it person, but his writing style just doesn’t spark joy. It feels like work. IDK how to describe it, I just can’t get in the flow with his writing.

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    Superman as an immigrant’s story is one of the oldest and most obvious analyses of the character. It’s barely even subtext; it’s just text. Imagine how he’ll react when he finds out Superman was originally a New Deal socialist who went around smashing up corrupt capitalists’ businesses for safety violations.

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      The quintessential symbol of heroism, of ‘The American Way’, Superman, was created during the rise of fascism and nazism by two Midwestern Jewish boys, one of whom had immigrated from Canada and whose parents were immigrants from Russia and The Netherlands. In the story introducing their character to the world, he saves a wrongly convicted woman from execution, stops a wife beater from killing his wife, and stops a slimy lobbyist and corrupt senator from roping the US into a war with Europe. i.e. it acknowledges that the justice system gets it wrong, that women can be abused and endangered by their husbands, and that congress has a huge corruption and bribery problem. Sounds pretty fucking woke to me. And a few years later had him literally punch Hitler. The idea that they didnt have anything to say with the character about prejudice, about immigrants adopting their new home and being adopted in turn, about politics, is fucking laughable… “too woke”. No, Dean, you’re too ignorant to think that he ever wasn’t “woke”.

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        Oh, that’s the tip if the iceberg. There’s one comic where he smashes up the city’s slums because he finds out the government will replace them with nicer, rent-subsidized apartments. There’s another where he traps a mine owner and all of his rich friends in a cave-in because of unsafe working conditions. Then there was the time he decided to take on traffic safety by smashing cars until the mayor promised to start enforcing traffic violations. Old-school Superman was one of those violent, radical-leftists the conservatives are so scared of.