How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don’t want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?
Conservatives are still mad that Superman fought the kkk.
Which is admitting they side with the kkk, isn’t it
Probably the same idiots who thought Homelander was a hero.
I’ve been wondering if there are Trump supporters watching The Handmaid’s Tale and siding with Gilead
I’m sure they have watched it and made lots of notes.
Did someone acctually expressed that thought?
Yeah, Dean Fucking Cain did.
The worst Superman in my lifetime.
Being selfless, kind and peaceful even when powerful quite literally goes against the Western ethos and to deny it is to deny not only history but contemporary Western societies as well (from the neverending colonization of the world, native American genocide included, to the recent “empathy is a sin” take, lol).
I’m out of the loop here. I’ve seen something about the most recent director or writer calling Superman an immigrant, and Dean Cain hating on that take and calling it “woke”. But I haven’t seen anyone expressing that Superman should not represent kindness.
FWIW if you are looking at reviews for an upcoming or recently released movies, and a lot of the comments are calling it “too political” or “woke”, give it a watch and come back with your own review. Those reviews are an indicator to me that it might be somewhat thought-provoking. (or also don’t watch if you have no interest in the subject)
What was that post from 4chan telling aliens to fuck off, and calling them space [REDACTED]s? Magats are so fucking stupid and evil, that they would tell Superman to fuck off.
Yes, people are angry that the director talked about Superman being an immigrant (even though he has been from another planet since the character was concieved) and they are also angry about the director saying Superman represents kindness, because apparently just being nice to people is woke now
Propaganda is powerful. You convince your followers that some classes of people don’t deserve kindness, you convince them that everything out of Hollywood is part of a leftist agenda, and once they believe both of those statements it’s very easy to spin this as further proof of the narrative they’ve already bought into.
Hey, fascists don’t deserve kindness.
But what if you kill them with kindness?
Whatever gets the job done.
I don’t care how you do it, it’s something that must be done either way.
I’m just baffled because not only is it way easier to not hate people, it’s way more beneficial for everyone.
These people are taking two mile hikes to find the perfect deer shit to shove down their throats.
You forget who benefits. It’s not the majority, correct.
That’s fully understood, we’re talking about propaganda, and I’m talking about who that propaganda affects.
You’re not wrong though at all. Arm yourself, convince anyone you can to do the same.
Only war is class war and I aim to win this bitch
Superman fighting the klan didn’t work because adults laughed at their hand signs and shit that were disclosed…
It’s because it got a generation of kids to see the klan as the bad guys
If Superman hated you, how the fuck were you going to indoctrinate your kid into the klan?
That’s why they’re always bitching about media. The people doing it are ignorant, but the ones telling them what to be mad about it are picking logical targets to fufil longterm goals.
It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.
Fighting for freedom never ends.
It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.
Can confirm. 330lbs I said “I’ll reach 320.”
At 320 I said I’ll reach 310.
At 310 I said 300.
At 300 I said 290.
Then 280.
Then 270.
Then 260.
Then 250.
Then 240.
I went back up to 250. Oh no no no no no. Fuck that shit. I’m going to see 240. And when I do, it’ll set my sights on 230.
And when I see 230, I will hug someone. Because that will be 100lb.
Which means I’ll look to 220.
And then 210.
And 200.
I don’t know where my weight loss journey ends. I don’t know when I’ll feel at a healthy weight.
I just know I hope my journey brings me to a day when I get to punch a nazi.
Because nazi lives DON’T matter!
The last thing you said is why I got one of my bans on Reddit. Fuck Reddit.
You’re gonna do it brudduh, don’t stop bettering yourself :)
Well. Your journey took real strength. Ain’t that something? Keep fighting the good fight.
Just don’t think of it as a diet or oppressive. Make it a lifestyle. I’m still around 220 after 11 years of mostly stuck in bed. 16 years ago I was 350. A part of me wishes I was still 190 at 7%, but it is super hard for me to get that low. I just don’t have that kind of pain tolerance to deal with being light headed and hungry 24/7 while counting calories, eating constantly, but never meals or more than a few bites of dry salad or chicken. Without racing and riding like 400+ miles a week, I’m just not that kind of motivated. I’d much rather be lazy and eat meals with way too many calories at once but still far fewer than most people. I have no desire to binge or eat processed food of any kind any more. Avoiding dairy has also been super helpful too because that is a good excuse to avoid most junk people make, fast food, or restaurants the few chances I ever get.
Holy shit you’re right.
zack snyder and cristopher nolan turned goofy do-gooder superheroes into unfeeling federal agents and gods we should be subservient to
I really don’t know how to convince people they should care about others.
I don’t know how to teach empathy.
That’s the thing, isn’t it? You either have empathy, or you are the other species. The one that can’t comprehend that there is anything wrong with them, but the world would be better off without them.
Empathy can absolutely develop over time. This rhetoric is not useful. Even dumb fucking right wing pieces of shit feel empathy when their in-group is affected.
If hate can be learned so can empathy, what you’re suggesting is dehumanizing
People care about their in-group. Make being human their main identity.
we can purge those filthy xenos from the galaxy!
Captain Archer had some good ideas. Turns out he really doesn’t like bullies.
You cannot. It’s either felt, or they’re shitspawn to be flushed.
A few slaps on the butt (assisted by a carpet beater when the occasion demands it) will usually do it. At least that’s how my mom did it with us.
“You! Have! To be! Good! To! Your! Sister/neighbor/dog!”
(EDIT: /s if not clear)
People angry that Superman represents kindness
Do these people exist? Is it just one troll, or a significant enough of a population to even give the slightest bit of thought?
I frequent dive bars. I have met plenty of people who believe in kindness, and love, and Jesus and shit - but not for immigrants, not for non-white people, not for criminals of any level. I straight up have had these people say this to my non-white face and then say, “oh but you don’t count because you have a job” or “you don’t count because you aren’t a drug addict”. Etc. etc.
These people suck fucking dick and I want them all to die.
It’s fucking ironic too when these same people talk about smoking weed, or stealing from big box stores self-checkouts, or vandalizing some dude’s car.
“Rules for thee, not for me.”
I read local obituaries solely to celebrate when I see some of these people die.
If only the circumstances that spawned them would change too…
This is dark, but you fuckin do you gurl. Fuck em.
Look at how many Americans would voluntarily die themselves just to prevent “unworthy” people from getting free health care.
These people exist.
Pain is the point for them
I’ve met countless people who hate morals and will tell you you’re an idiot if you treat other humans as equals
No way
It’s one guy making the propaganda right now, but I assure you, in a week, everyone in your family that you try not to talk to will be spouting this horseshit.
They don’t want Superman, they want Brightburn.
I enjoyed that movie, but the part at the end where they included Aquaman and Wonder Woman was stupid.
Idk, I always thought Superman was cool, but a little boring and vanilla. I normally prefer Batman. Admittedly, I’ve never dived down the Superman lore pit, but I am aware that he gets a little darker sometimes. He’s definitely one of the better role model heroes. Anyone that actually hates Superman, is a dipshit.
Wouldn’t say I hate him, he just bores me, his plots are kinda lame, and I don’t like his personality. Invulnerable to everything but some supposedly rare rock that’s actually everywhere apparently with how often he finds himself encountering it. They eventually added magic I guess because kryptonite showing up like table salt was getting old. Then has the whole goody two shoes paladin act going on. Just a yawn fest imo.
I dunno’, batman is cool, but he’s an ineffectual LARPer that refuses to do the ONE thing that would actually start to fix things in Gotham…
That and he’s a billionaire that decides to keep up the playboi image despite his escapades demonstrably having a miniscule effect on crime in Gotham compared to him just using his billions to actually help solve the systemic issues in Gotham’s economy that drives so many to crime in the first place.
In short, Batman is everything wrong with the American attitude about capitalism.
At least Superman has the excuse that he is not an economic powrhouse that actually could indirectly improve thousands upon thousands of peoples’ lives. … as weirdly as an all-powerful being not being an economic powerhouse is.
Batman is definitely cool. That just can’t be disputed. He definitely spends a fuck ton of money on the city. His main obstacle, is the writing. Gotham City has to be awful. It has to be, or there is no story. He can’t kill villains regularly, because of plot. If the problems were capable of being fixed, then he’d be on of the best possible people to solve them.
The problems are capable of being fixed. The people of Gotham take to crime to survive because they have been squeezed by the ruling class and it’s the only way to protect what remains of their material conditions.
The Waynes and people like them, the owning class, prop up a system of inequality that forces these conditions to endure.
Bruce Wayne, the richest and most powerful of all, is hurt back (his parents killed) and instead of solving the systemic issues, he doles out individualized corporal punishment as a vigilante.
It’s the ultimate extension of “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”: Rich people will never acknowledge that the very system that provides them power is the ultimate root of all the issues they intend to solve via violence. Batman is himself the ultimate villain of the story.
I wish. He doesn’t even dole out corporal punishment, at least as far as those words mean to the state that he continually props up.
I agree his biggest problem is the writing, because in reality, he’d be the best person to fix the problems (as you say)… outside of his freakish inability to kill irredeemable trash.
Though that’s why he sucks so bad when reconciling everything back to reality. He absolves the rich of fixing problems because not even the “cool” insanely rich and very willing philanthropist Batman can fix a single city let alone a country, and heaven forbid killing irredeemable trash!
He’s inadvertently a perfect example of how blind capitalism and boundless optimism are absolute braindead garbage perspectives.
Depends on the comic. Sometimes he has philanthropic initiatives that get attacked by the bad guys.
Sometimes seems like a piss-poor excuse to me.
But Batman DOES uses his billions to help Gotham. The problem is that most of his rogues gallery is composed of high ranking rich mafia bosses, and the rest are completely insane individuals (or even sane people who just LIKE being evil for no reason like Scarecrow who literally gasses people until they die of fright just to study their reactions). You can’t possibly think bribing the Joker with a billion dollars would stop him from bombing orphanages, gassing entire neighborhoods, or LITERALLY NUKING AN ENTIRE CITY.
Investing money into Gotham isn’t gonna stop the Penguin or Black Mask from running protection rackets or bribing cops, it won’t stop Poison Ivy from commiting literal ecoterrorism, and it won’t stop Victor Zsasz from gutting people to death with knives, or Deadshot from assassinating people.
Oh, and another thing: the city is actually fucking cursed with evil black magic. That’s not hyperbole. The city literally makes people evil.
Batman only is a vigilante because his work as Bruce Wayne is not enough.
The obvious solution to the irredeemable crazies I hint at is to KILL THEM. Then it would become a question of why the fuck isn’t he helping Gotham’s economy?
I get what you’re hinting at, that a lot of it is a lack of perspective by the writers, but the fact remains that Batman is one of the least effectual “heros” there is.
You can’t possibly think bribing the Joker with a billion dollars would stop him from bombing orphanages
You’re missing OP’s point. Depending on which Joker origin story you’re looking at, then the man would never become the joker in the first place. Like if we go with the recent movie version of Joker’s origin, he became the joker in large part because of an awful healthcare system and a horrible social safety net system. If he got good care and treatment all through his life then he never would become the Joker
In fiction, hard agree; in reality, I’d summon super man over bat man pretty quick. I think he’s boring because he doesn’t leave much room for interesting conflict. irl, I don’t want interesting conflict lol
I’d prefer benevolent god over tech wizard bdsm billionaire exceptionalism. The guy choosing to be small is far greater than the guy buying big shoes
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Plenty of people want to inflict pain or see pain inflicted, as long as it’s on the appropriate victims, and these people aren’t all on the right. It’s a common human trait.
Perhaps we should cull that portion of the population. Humanely, of course.
nah, the rich has to be eaten
Kill them with kindness.
Is that what you named your gun? 🤣
Hard agree
