Let’s state the truth. Doctors do NOT care about women one bit, unless said woman is actively pregnant. And then it is ONLY to ensure the baby is ok. Otherwise I’ve yet to meet a doctor (male or female - doesn’t matter) who fines one damn about women.
ETA to add that doctors need to be told to give women pain relief is proof.
This is cool. I guess I can see how it would come across as an Onion article, but Doctors historically don’t actually take women’s pain in general seriously, let alone pain that is specific to women themselves. Awesome news.
It was one of the worst pains I’ve ever experienced and they gave me mother fucking tylenol.
I got the IUD after twelve years of trying to convince doctors my cramps were unusually bad, and being prescribed mother fucking tylenol, for what I later learned were “muscle spasms similar to labor,” every. single. month.
The IUD helped! If you have the same, ask about a Mirena and bring a flask of something strong. Like opium.
IUDs have to be inserted through cervix and from what I’ve been told by women pretty much universally, poking cervix in any way hurts like fucking removed. How is this not universally accepted and approached accordingly with pain meds or local anesthetics for the procedure?
fucking removed
What?..?
Self censorship, the hardest one to bypass
It’s a filter on lemmy.ml users and communities. They can’t say “Bitch” (female dog).
Hahahahaha, what times we live in
I don’t know, I think ml has some weirdness in its software that results in shit like this.
Dot ml considered “Bitch” a slur and blocks it. Kinda ironic in this case it stopped a woman from expressing herself.
Edit: actually rereading I’m not sure it’s a woman posting.
Hurts like fucking capitalism.
Be a step in the right direction.
Fun fact: they stopped working on a male birth control pill because of the side effects it was causing. Most of those side effects are experienced by women taking the female birth control pill.
Fun fact 2: the chainsaw was invented to open the pubic Symphysis joint during difficult child birth.
Bonus banger to enjoy how dismissive healthcare is for women.
(as one of my friends constantly reminds me, my facts are not very fun)
IUDs are a pretty terrible experience for many women. My uterus wouldn’t stop trying to reject mine for two years. These don’t work at all for a lot of women.
If side effects are not death, surely they are worth it for many, so cancellation seems weird
It’s the result of weird ethical standards, which make the side effects justifiable for women since women experience all sorts of effects from periods that can in some cases get better with hormonal birth control. The fact that someone (many people I’m sure) might choose to deal with these side effects in exchange for their partner not having to, or just for additional safety, doesn’t factor in there.
I honestly think it’s rooted in the same beliefs that also make it hard to get any permanent body alterations done if not deemed “medically necessary”. Things like a vasectomy or HRT, both of which reportedly have tons of hoops to jump through to get them.
A lack of trust in people to be able to decide what to do with their own bodies.
You want to get angry with a group of people?
Do a group read of Invisible Women, it’ll fuck you up how badly science and engineering fucks up rather than include women because it’s hard 😬
As much as this sucks, it’s not just birth control. Medication that was legalized when laws and regulations were more lax will stay legal even if wouldn’t be permitted nowadays. Famously, aspirin would almost certainly not be legalized today because the necessary dose is too close to the dangerous dose. Of course it’s sexist as shit that they’re only starting to researching male birth control in the current day.
Fun fact: they stopped working on a male birth control pill because of the side effects it was causing. Most of those side effects are experienced by women taking the female birth control pill.
It’s a bit unethical to continue a study when it causes people to try and committ suicide.
What about when it finds something you’ve been giving women for years has been causing people to try and sometimes succeed in committing suicide?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6193788/
And on a lesser scale it was a common experience in women’s dorms for a woman who got a boyfriend would go on bc, which would make her into such a mess (Mood swings, anxiety, depression and don’t forget weight gain and acne!) that the relationship would fall apart.
They always say, “it’s better than childbirth,” and it is, but does that have to be the bar? We don’t judge anything for men with “well, it’s better than childbirth.” We try to find ways to make it as painless as possible.
Which is why this is so overdue and appreciated.
I cannot help but wonder…why not just use condoms. Like we solved the problem ages ago - put a wall between the shot and it’s target. Is it uncomfortable? Yeah, somewhat.
Which still sounds hella better than anxiety, depression, mood swings etc.
Condoms break. The best prevention is layered birth control, two different forms like condom plus another method which will increase effectiveness to near 100%.
Also you can’t be seriously saying that all men happily use a condom. Been on the receiving end of much weedling and stealth removal.
The best prevention is layered birth control, two different forms like condom plus another method which will increase effectiveness to near 100%.
It’s important to note, for those who need to know it, that “layering birth control” should only be done with different types (ie a condom and a spermicide, or a condom and the BC pill, etc.) It does not mean using more than one condom at the same time! Two or more condoms create friction against each other, which can cause them to tear - defeating the purpose.
Men like these should be taken out back and shot, no different than rape imo. I just said that condoms work and are oretty much 100% effective if used correctly. But yeah, I cede to the fact that it’s not 100% controllable from women pov.
Birth control can very much help hormonal imbalances that can cause painful skin conditions like cystic acne, PMS, painful periods, and manage more serious conditions like endometriosis and PCOS, in which rupturing polyps can cause scar tissue from from your uterus to migrate to your other organs and destroy them.
I use it for all of them.
Birth control is not just about sex & pregnancy prevention.
and yet…
Holy crap, is it not currently?
Many doctors dismiss a significant amount of pain complaints in general because of the small minority of drug abusers seeking pain meds.
How are we supposed to punish every single member of the tiny minority who abuse the system if we’re not allowed unlimited collateral damage with impunity?
It would seem that America doesn’t have a problem with collective punishment
It’s the mass suffering of the “lessers“ who can’t afford doctors who will just give them whatever drug they ask for. These people actually believe that being unsuccessful, or even slightly less fortunate, is some kind of moral failing, and, therefore, you deserve your fate.
Ghouls
American Exceptionalism hard at work.
That’s not what american exceptionalism means
It’s an ideology that is certainly popular here in the United States (although, far from the majority sociopolitical orientation), but it’s hardly unique to here, nor did it originate here. Humans have been both greedy and exploitative of other humans for our entire history. This isn’t an excuse, just sayin…
Edit: you know, I think a good example of American exceptionalism in practice is the rather foolish belief that once any group here has finally won any civil rights that we will just continue to have them forever without any work or effort in order to maintain or keep them.
Functional democracy are hard work. But they’re worth it.
In this case it’s a remnant of the history of gynecology being using slave women as unwilling test subjects and dismissing all objections from them
worsened by opiod crisis, and homeless population.
Well, as I can’t afford medical care, I wouldn’t know this. TIL.
I have a shoulder injury. I’m down to 6 pain pills and i’m so anxious about requesting more.
I’ve been told it ranges from “it’s a quick pinch”, through “that’s just the way it is” to “we could give a numbing shot, but it would be just as uncomfortable and make this take longer so there’s no point”.
As a man looking in from the outside, women’s reproductive healthcare has a level of dismissiveness around pain that makes the dumbest machismo look quaint. There’s the male doctors who just dismiss women’s pain, and the female doctors who know and just “that’s how it is” it. And then the one 50 year old obstetrics doctor in the country who understands the balance of “childbirth intrinsically hurts” and “we can manage the hell out of pain if we actually do our jobs” who gets to enter a room for 30 seconds, implicitly convey that they’re a saint and perfect human being and then immediately get paged to perform emergency surgery for a car accident involving multiple pregnant women, at least in our experience.
That last bit is the only exaggeration. I’m sure there’s actually two or three doctors like her per state. The rest is true.
Dismissiveness towards women’s pain is upsettingly common in healthcare. From plain old sexism (a woman’s 7/10 is a mans 4/10 because women are sensitive) to women’s symptoms manifesting differently than men’s (women’s heart attacks don’t present the same as men’s, and differences in abdominal anatomy means there’s more ways for pain to mask itself as coming from somewhere else.), the end result is that I can’t think of a women I know and have talked to about it who hasn’t laughingly referenced a doctor dismissing their pain and ordering a pregnancy test.
My doctor told me to take a couple ibuprofens before. Did the thing. Made me lie there for a few minutes then set me loose.
I vomited in the parking lot afterwards.
I vomited in the exam room and passed out. I think they finally realized I wasn’t kidding.
My gf got told “it’s a pinch” and “there are no nerves in the cervix you won’t feel it”.
They stab that shit with sharp pincers to hold it open. Ohhh it hurts.
There are no nerves in the cervix?? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Maybe it’s just nerves everywhere around the cervix which funnily enough, makes no difference
Lololol no, you’re just told to take an ibuprofen
They told my wife this, but she’s on blood thinner and can’t have ibuprofen. Least you can do is read her medical history before telling her to take a dangerous drug combo
From my experience, removal was more painful than insertion (I’m on #3), but regardless - how is this just now an issue?!??
Thank you
