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Why was Trump in Mexico?
He’s got dementia. We are lucky he is only in Mexico.
But his base would say he is single handedly fighting to cartels.
That’s a strange picture, considering how women have never pushed for equal representation in blue collar work or any of the ‘shitty’ jobs.
Bruh, I hope you’re gay because you aren’t getting any pussy spewing garbage like that out of your mouth
just flat out lie out of nowhere lol. lay off the podcasts for a while
Man, people out here just lying what they feel like before doing a basic search. I have dumb ideas in my head from time to time too, but I look em up to see if I didn’t just hear something wrong first.
Journey level construction worker here. Your statement is simply incorrect. This fight has been going on for decades. The EEOC did a report on this a couple years ago and found that women and black people either flatly denied work or are subjected to widespread discrimination, harassment and violence. I’ve seen years of this behavior everything from sexual assault to threats of lynching. https://19thnews.org/2023/07/construction-industry-women-people-of-color-discrimination/
One search for “women’s rights blue collar” and I find this study, so, false. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26967056
Also, have you not heard of Rosie the Riveter? lol
Idk, man, I work in a dirty southern US factory and half of our workers are women.
doubt
What unexamined emotional need does that fill for you?
I’ve been in a lot of blue collar environments in a previous career, and this is definitely something that happens. It’s not normative, but you’ll usually find a few construction companies or factories or warehouses in an area that employ a much more equally-gendered workforce.
We hire who will come in. Women have proven to be better coworkers than young men because they actually show up and do what they are supposed to. I’ve been here for nearly a decade, seen folks come and go, and I am less impressed with gen z every time they hire one, he can’t show up on time two days in a row and hide all day when they are here, and get fired in a month. Everybody here gets the same chances. Nothing we do here is that hard, it’s repetitive, not exciting, but not hard, and we pay above average for the area. It’s always attendance that gets the guys too. Make it make sense.
You know, you could always keep your dumbass mouth shut.
Women absolutely have pushed to break down barriers in the trades and blue collar fields. Women are also demeaned, under-considered, and sexually harassed every step along the way.
Not sure how it’s elsewhere, but in Germany most woman in blue collar jobs quit within the first year of training, because they are not taken seriously by teachers and colleagues (not sure where i read this… i think there was a study last year)
Not at all true, there are certainly organisations pushing for equality for women in blue collar work. First search engine result
Not sure how it’s elsewhere, but in Germany most woman in blue collar jobs quit within the first year of training, because they are not taken seriously by teachers and colleagues (not sure where i read this… i think there was a study last year)
Not at all true, there are certainly organisations pushing for equality for women in blue collar work. First search engine result
Search query. Who’s helping women with blue collar jobs. Whoa! first results tells me women are being helped with blue collar jobs. Hmm, I wonder why helping women with blue collar jobs was an article in the first place. I’m sure there wasn’t a problem before the article.
A problem like widespread sexism in the industry? smh
What?
With the number of politicians/mayors who get killed each year in Mexico, how in the hell is someone allowed to get that close to her? Holy shit.
Mexican here, this was an act. She was in a great deal of political pressure because a prominent politician/activist not associated with the regime of the ruling party, Morena, was killed and she tried to minimize it.
AMLO, the former president, founder of Morena, used to do this ridiculous acts too. Somehow a rando could walk to him taking a (fan) letter out from from his jacket, and hug him, in national TV, while his massive security team did absolutely nothing. Claudia Sheimbaum also has a massive security apparatus, this doesn’t happen without them allowing it.
The guy apparently has appeared in older videos as part of her security team, and in some angles you can see he has a holster. We Mexicans joke that all the randos doing these ridiculous but very convenient acts have an army haircut. So far it has held true, your kids do better acting at the spring festival.
Just as people demand Trump to stop distractions about the Epstein files, people here demand Sheinbaum to stop distractions and solve the public execution of Carlos Manzo by the cartels.
I dunno, this sounds made up.
As made up as the shot that hurt Trump’s ear, which was miraculously healed a few weeks later. Cheap political theatre for simpletons.
He was healed in a medi-bed, duh!
You know how I know you’re a fellow Latino? Cause you think everything is an act and a conspiracy, you sound like my dad
I’m Mexican, not Latino; and dismissing everything as paranoia is as dumb as thinking every is a conspiracy.
I’m Mexican, not Latino
murricans group everyone that lives south of them in this same bucket
Sounds about right.
Does any Mexican press point this out? The Guardian certainly doesn’t.
If the cartels wanted her dead, no amount of security would save her. She’s only in that position because the cartels allow her to be in that position.
I wonder how much of that is true for any president. Like did Obama get a “talk” when he became president?
C. G. P. Grey’s “Rules for Rulers” is illuminating on that front, but I don’t think you mean soft power. I think you mean gangsters. And I think that most US presidents avoid such a thing by virtue of being the C in C of the biggest military on the planet. Though maybe they get a little bit of it from the Pentagon, I dunno.
Obligatory: ‘Rules for Rulers’ is a very condensed summary of Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith’s ‘The Dictator’s Handbook’.
If I were the president of Mexico I wouldn’t be mingling in crowds like this at all, but yeah her security was wayyy too slow on the draw.
Absolutely disgusting. This is such a massive issue here in Latin America, I hate how scared I have to be all the time of the men around me.
Bot speak. Fuck, I hate how much Im recognising this now. Overly generic outrage, region tag virtue signalling, generic emotional framing, it all hits various points of popular karma farming.
My bad, maybe it’s the autism and I take in too much bot content without realizing it and it shapes the way I type.
Can you elaborate or double check? I looked through their profile and they appear human. But things are changing fast I’m always eager to learn new clues to detect this stuff.
I already did. Go to reddit, look at any “AITA” post and look how its worded. How the language flows. You can see the fingerprints of an AI constructed sentence. Theres an uncanny valley feel to them. It sounds like something a person would say, but its more deliberate. Practiced. Vague.
“Absolutely disgusting.(vague outrage) This is such a massive issue here in Latin America(region tag virtue signal), I hate how scared I have to be all the time of the men around me.(personal vulnerability + generalised fear + gender violence)”. Its all very emotional, but vague. Lacking context to connect to the OP. You could copy and paste this, maybe change the region, and you can apply to any post about sexual assault. But fuck me, it sure does suck up the upvotes, dont it?
Ah, that makes sense. I like being intentionally vague on the internet specially when it comes to revealing personal information, such as my location and gender identity.
I agree with your characterization except for the part suggesting they’re a bot or AI. I think they’re a human just used to making empty comments on social media.
The person who is the worst about it on Lemmy is MyOpinion. Their name is accurate, they just drop two sentences of half a thought on what seems like half the newsy posts I read.
Gross. I’m sorry you have to put up with that.
My wife is Latina and she definitely complains much more about this than Western women have. Machista behavior is too normalized.
Machistas fucking suck. My father is one and it’s cost him his immediate and extended family. He’s practically all alone.
thats fucking nasty. im sorry you have to worry about that
My boobs got groped in public the first year they were appealing to men. I didn’t even realize what had happened at first.
Edit: I’m trans and my boobs became first attractive to men in my 40s. The incident I’m describing happened in the US.
I’m not sure if that’s better or worse than assuming you were a cis woman and it happened at like 13. Because I’ve heard of that happening too.
That happened to my ex-wife, by a family member.
That she was expected to forgive and not make faces around afterward.
what…where does this come from that its fine to do this? jesus.
The country that elected the “grab them by the pussy” President?
I didn’t see the US edit till later and I’m still shocked some fucker did that in the US. Gross
It doesn’t need to be fine to do. It just needs to be doable without consequences. Even if just 1% of men are shitty enough to do it, that will be enough for almost every woman to suffer from it.
Yeah and there should be consequences for that wherever this happens. Nobody deserves to be violated like that.
I really liked the “yes all women” hashtag response to the “not all men” one. Pointing out the near universal experience of women being harassed (or worse) by a man at some point (often multiple times) in their life.
Dont know why, since it too was a lie. Across the world its around 50%, which still aint great. But its not all. People really need to stop talking in absolutes, we arent sith for fucks sake.
To me the “dealing in absolutes” here is insisting that the phrase “yes all women” can’t be used if even a single woman hasn’t been harassed because it’s a “lie” rather than actually listening to what the women are saying and the point they’re trying to make.
If the point your trying to make requires a lie, then its not a very good point. Is it? If a single man is raped by woman, can I then say “all women”? If a single man beats his wife, can I say “all men”? If a single American is fat, rapes women and is elected president, can I say “All Americans”? Are you starting to see the issue yet?
When you say “all” you invite people to say “well actually…” and then back that up with stats that make the claim that all woman or all men or all Americans is bullshit. And we stop talking about the actual issue, kinda like whats happening now. So maybe, instead of the hyperbole, just state the facts and let them do the heavy lifting instead of the bullshit that leads to so many online arguments. No?
Sound like an “all lives matter” type.
I have the same question because I believe that person is not a loaf of bread1so I also question whether they live in Estonia. I like to think we’re better than that here nowadays (30 years ago might have been different, 90s were hell).
1 Eesti leib means Estonian bread in, well, Estonian
i mean, ill be honest, ive heard this happening in select countries, and still is gross. To hear it this widespread across countries just blows my mind.
Unfortunately it still happens in a lot of places, I’m just hoping it’s not as common here as the comment above described. Kinda sucks to raise a child in a society where groping is deemed acceptable.
Such uncivilized behavior… This happened in Estonia? I guess people who have no respect for personal boundaries and autonomy exists everywhere, unfortunately. But on that note, most people are decent folks, only overshadowed by the idiots. Personally I’ve (luckily?) only had good experiences with the people while living here.
wtf
Scumbags like this only scream/harass/physically attack decent democratically elected politicians like Claudia Sheinbaum, Justin Trudeau, Keir Starmer…
I’m more impressed by the fact that she wasn’t stabbed.
I’m impressed he wasn’t shot. Surely she wasn’t the only one with guns.
Wasn’t shot yet.
Whose drawn and quartered body is dangling from that bridge?
What’s the plan here? How did he think this would end? Drunk fucking idiots thinking with their small head.
He didn’t think.
People is talking in México, everybody is saying (including me) that is a smoke screen for the last events that have took place in the country: Waldos’ incident in Hermosillo and Carlos Manzo’s murder in Uruapan, both happening the same day, the Day of the Dead’s eve.
Edit: If really is a smoke screen, Morena is showing us once again that you always can get lower. Only they can use a real problem like women harassment to make people forget that Mexico is mad and we want a real change.
Edit 2: It’s already happening: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/05/politica/ony-y-onu-mujeres-respaldan-a-sheinbaum-tras-episodio-de-acoso I hate this goverment so much
You’re saying she wanted to be groped, that she orchestrated it? That’s pretty fucked up to say. Anything to allow this type of behavior, right?
watch the video. if it were fake and staged then when you see the video of the act it looks like nothing. Again, the guy in the video holds her shoulder and leans in for a kiss, but stops short of kissing her because he was told to by her security. Are you a white american? I believe mexicans over you
Again, if this were not taged then obviously youre in the right to be upset, but there is a potential this was staged. Why couldnt this have been staged as the mexican people in this thread keep saying
If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.
Edit; they’re also blaming the party, not her specifically. Reading up on her, I think she’s OK. The party seems corrupt though.
One cannot simultaneously say that it’s a serious issue and then dismiss an incidence of it, plain to see on camera, with a conspiracy theory.
Are you seriously saying that someone cant take a serious issue and then use that issue for their own benefit???
…yeah, you can. Are you implying that no giverment has ever performed false flag attacks?
Im not on either side of this, only learned about it yesterday. But it is a wild take to say that because you recognise a problem, you are suddenly magically incapable of looking at nuance.
I’m saying that men have groped women many orders of magnitude more frequently and Occam’s razor should apply. You can turn this into a false flag conspiracy and blame the woman who got groped, on zero evidence Just don’t claim you’re serious about women’s issues if you do. You can’t have it all.
If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.
im not going to debate whether i stand for womens rights with you. But again, nuance.
You couldn’t debate it if you tried. But your lack of trying is noted.
You can imagine how much we have seen this kind of behavior before. Women that are obviously culprit, mocking off real victims of sexual abuse, wanting to be shielded by sorority. Here Claudia Sheinbaum “is another victim”, she felt harrasded, like Carlos Manzo did when he asked for help for its city and was completly ignored.
People downvote you because it sounds ridiculous, but this is literally what’s happening, this has been the playbook of Morena in Mexico. Think Mexican GOP if you’re struggling with the concept that we can also have shameless self-serving clowns as political leaders hoarding more and more power.
Se pueden atender dos problemas al mismo tiempo. El gobierno es un asco pero no entiendo que tiene que ver la noticia de la ONU con la explosión del waldos
La ONU está respaldando a Claudia, probablemente todo el mundo se entere de lo que le pasó a ella debido ya que la ONU está relacionada ahora, lo que me da mucha rabia es que ahora existe una mujer viuda, que ahora es alcaldeza de Uruapan. ¿Quién la respalda a ella y lo que le pueda pasar? Acaba de pasar completamente a segundo plano.
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I support beatings for such people.
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And maybe break their hands, just to be sure.
If we’re going to break out cruel and unusual punishments, we should start with the ruling class that is responsible for way more death and suffering than this guy.
No opposing to that! Though they deserve much worse. It should be like this: Punishments are scaling as one’s class, so they should know their responsibilities better. If you see yourself above the society, you deserve punishment. And I fear it’s pretty common among the ruling class around the world.
How about just arrest and prosecution and actually serious sentencing for sexual assault? Because that’s, you know, not extrajudicial.
I wish. Most people don’t even get serious times for murder. They get remission for some reason and kill someone again when they’re out. Serving time doesn’t change their behaviour. It might work for some people but it definitely doesn’t work for some. Where is justice if you can’t prevent it after seeing their previous misdemeanors?
The hand breaking could absolutely be doled out judicially. He didn’t say it should be done without due process.
Men are pigs
“Usual suspects” rhetoric, but with sex instead of race.
Fuck off.
Pigs don’t grope women.
And pigs are smart animals, even when not compared to sexual offenders.
What’s the point of hating an entire group of people because some of them are assholes?
Just say that sexual offenders are pigs, no need for sexism.
Almost all sex offenders are men
Seems you came here to flaunt your closed mind. Why?
Closed to what?
Technically true, but sexual assault on men is even more underreported than sexual assault on women. We can’t let other men know we’re weak. Same goes for non-sexual assault. Two exes have been regularly violent to me and I just kept going because I’m not admitting in public that a woman is beating me. I just took it “like a man”, knowing full well I could knock them the fuck out, but choosing not to hit back.
So we really don’t know how much sexual violence is perpertrated against men by women. After all, men always want it, so we can not be raped by women. Unless it’s a particularly fugly woman maybe?
My point is, toxic masculinity and all that. We don’t know how much is being hidden.
I know exactly what you mean. When I (cis man) was freshly 18 in the 00’s I was indecently assaulted by an older woman in a bar when I walked past her and her group of friends and I never reported it. I have friends who experienced similar who never reported it either. When I told my friends that night what had just happened I was told I was lucky to be non-consensually grabbed by a woman. I tried to tell myself that was the case for a long time; it took many years before I came to realise that I was assaulted and, by that point, there was nothing I could do about it.
Source for sexual assault on men being more underreported?
Sadly, but which of course doesn’t imply the reverse.
Yeah, people need to learn Bayes’ theorem.
Even better, prove it themselves.
REPORTED sex offenders.
Male reporting of sexual assault by women are hardly ever reported due to the stigma attached.
Getting SAed by a woman doesn’t feel any better.
I never said it did, you’re just making shit up
You sound exactly the same as the people who tell sexually assaulted women that they’re “making shit up”
Holy strawman fallacy
You made a claim that hyperrin is making shit up without any solid proof
I also don’t see what your goal is with all these sexist claims. Should we arrest all men? Discriminate against them? I just want to live in a society where everyone is treated equally, regardless of gender.
All murderers are human. You don’t say fuck humans, you say fuck murderers
You see it in fiction all the time:
- HumanA: “Demons killed my parents”
- HumanB: “Orcs ate my child”
- ElfA: “Humans abducted my siblings and sold them in the slave market.”
Those are just analogies of the group based generalisations we tend to make IRL.
all sexual offenders can go fuck themselves, regardless of gender.
This gives off «Despite Being Only 13 Percent of the Population» vibes
Believe it or not men are not an oppressed minority. Sex offenders also cross all races and religions. It’s something all of you can relate to equally
Bullshit. It’s just looked at differently. A student gets sexually assaulted by a female teacher and everyone is like nice. Flip the genders and everyone is like that’s sick. Why? Both are as bad as each other.
Statistically speaking if you are sexually assaulted there’s between a 94 and 99 percent chance it was a man assaulting you.
So all men are sex offenders?
93.6% of sexual abuse offenders were men. This is an overwhelming statistic. Not all men are sex offenders but almost every sex offender is a man
Not who you responded to, but evidently someone needs to point out that you didnt read their question, or you maliciously misinterpreted it.Edit: nope they did actually answer the question, im just shockingly bad at reading which is very unusual for me.
It appears that you’re the one who didn’t read my response. “Not all men are sex offenders but almost every sex offender is a man”
…so you’re just ignoring their question to substitute your own. Very nice strawman, but it does appear pretty malicious at this point.
Username checks out.
The same creep who whines and cries and complains about how the HR department is a conspiracy to oppress white men will be cornering the fucking CTO in the break room at the first opportunity.
Only way to deal with these assholes is to shove them in a concrete box until they sober up and learn manners.
I mean you’re not wrong, but women aren’t much better. If this man runs for office tomorrow, 50% of women would probably vote for him.
But they won’t grope him in public
Thanks for the generalization.
